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#1 ChrisJM981

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 08:10 PM

One of my coworkers was shaking his head at me since I don't clean my firing pin on my Glock (or my S&W 22A for that matter). Is it a big deal not to clean it? If I should could somebody recommend a guide? I don't think that's listed in my glock manual.
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#2 Old School

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 08:26 PM

The GLOCK firing pin channel is designed to be self cleaning. That being said.
If you make the pistol safe, magazine well and chamber, then pull the trigger.
Then shake the pistol and you should be able to hear the firing pin rattle back and forth, forward and backward. This should prove a firing pin channel in a safe(clean) condition.

If you must clean it, remove the firing pin and clean the channel with a pipe cleaner. NOT a bore brush.
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#3 ChrisJM981

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Posted 16 January 2010 - 09:59 PM

Thanks Old School! If it stops rattling I'll bring it to a smith for a cleaning. :D Maks I know you have a S&W 22A do you clean that firing pin on it?
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#4 Old School

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 10:19 AM

Thanks Old School! If it stops rattling I'll bring it to a smith for a cleaning. :D Maks I know you have a S&W 22A do you clean that firing pin on it?


If you don't clean it yourself or let me show you how to do it... I'll be mad at you. :shock:
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#5 rscalzo

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 10:34 AM

The GLOCK firing pin channel is designed to be self cleaning


That is far from true. One of the reasons we stopped using our ultrasonic cleaner was because of the Glock design. It lossen the dirt and trapped it. The result is a out of battery detonation. After several occured, a warning went out to area agencies.

As always, visually check for an empty chamber after magazine removal.http://www.parts.cc/glock/disassembly/Slide1.htm
http://rockhollywood.net/media/GlockDisassembly.pdf

Removing the firing pin assembly takes a second. There is no reason no to do so and repires nothing more than a thin pin or punch. In fact everyone should look into the Lyman Punch/Hammer conbo.http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/GNS042-1.html It is a very usefull tool set for little money.

#6 Old School

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 11:01 AM

The GLOCK firing pin channel is designed to be self cleaning


That is far from true. One of the reasons we stopped using our ultrasonic cleaner was because of the Glock design. It lossen the dirt and trapped it. The result is a out of battery detonation. After several occured, a warning went out to area agencies.

As always, visually check for an empty chamber after magazine removal.http://www.parts.cc/glock/disassembly/Slide1.htm
http://rockhollywood.net/media/GlockDisassembly.pdf

Removing the firing pin assembly takes a second. There is no reason no to do so and repires nothing more than a thin pin or punch. In fact everyone should look into the Lyman Punch/Hammer conbo.http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/GNS042-1.html It is a very usefull tool set for little money.


rscalzo- Sorry but you are incorrect about the design. There is a debris hole under the firing pin channel for debris to fall out of. Now if this is successful 100% of the time is another issue. I'll review your links. But. if a fully assembled slide was being put in an ultrasonic bath where could the debris escape to if it was more than a debris hole could handle. Again I will review your links but it sounds like this deals with pretty grungy pistols that were just thrown in a ultrasonic bath.

Respectly summited

Agreed there is no repacement for actual cleaning.
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#7 rscalzo

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 11:39 AM

Sorry but you are incorrect about the design


Unfortunately, it doesn't work. After bthe problem, a dealer with a massive amount of experience told me exactly why it happened before I mentioned the ultrasonic cleaner. I met with L&R out in Kearny and they verified it. Ultrasonic is fine when the item being cleaned is totally disassembled. While they push the field strip and dunk in their adds, it doesn't work that well. In fact the ultrasonicx caused more problems then it was worth.

The gunk doesn't flow out the relief hole and jams the pin slightly forward causing the problem. As I witnessed it, the design is not foolproof.

While your explanation might work well as far as the glock literature goes, it doesn't work in practice. In my opinion anyone relying on that method is foolish at best when it takes seconds to clean the firearm properly and completely.

#8 takeji

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 11:53 AM

I actually saw a good guide awhile back on youtube. This guy had a bunch of glock videos and was the one who posted it. If I find the video itself ill post a link for ya.

Edit: Found the video.

#9 Old School

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Posted 17 January 2010 - 12:17 PM

Sorry but you are incorrect about the design


Unfortunately, it doesn't work. After bthe problem, a dealer with a massive amount of experience told me exactly why it happened before I mentioned the ultrasonic cleaner. I met with L&R out in Kearny and they verified it. Ultrasonic is fine when the item being cleaned is totally disassembled. While they push the field strip and dunk in their adds, it doesn't work that well. In fact the ultrasonicx caused more problems then it was worth.

The gunk doesn't flow out the relief hole and jams the pin slightly forward causing the problem. As I witnessed it, the design is not foolproof.

While your explanation might work well as far as the glock literature goes, it doesn't work in practice. In my opinion anyone relying on that method is foolish at best when it takes seconds to clean the firearm properly and completely.


I wrote a long post in reply and lost it- Sorry!

So just a one liner. "It's not the arrow, it's the Indian"

If it don't rattle, take it apart and clean it.
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#10 ChrisJM981

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 02:01 PM

Okay so I'll take it apart after I go the range Wednesday. Taking it apart isn't the problem for me. It's putting it back together without having extra pieces. :lol:
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#11 Old School

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Posted 18 January 2010 - 02:21 PM

When you disassemble it just remember to keep your thumb over the extractor spring so it doesn't fly. But you knew that! And no oil in the fireing pin channel.

Good Luck we beat this one to death! :deadhorse:
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#12 Col. Mortimer

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 12:57 PM

There is a good video entitled "Making Glocks Rock". I borrowed it from a friend of mine and it was very helpful and well worth the price.

#13 Caine

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Posted 19 January 2010 - 01:55 PM

Most of AGIs videos are pretty good. Will have to look for that one
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