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Grip modification legal for IDPA SSP and USPSA Production


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#1 LorenzoS

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 05:28 PM

The grip on my M&P gets slippery with sweaty hands so I’d like to do something to increase friction. Stippling seems to be the most practical and popular option. However the catch is I want to keep the pistol legal for both IDPA SSP and USPSA Production.

Does anyone know if I can stipple the removable backstrap and/or the grip itself? What about grip tape?
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#2 Old School

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 05:54 PM

Read the rule books but, skateboard tape is legal for sure.
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#3 sirsloop

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 06:02 PM

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#4 kristi

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 06:50 AM

Stippling is permitted for USPSA Production, but not for IDPA SSP. Skateboard tape is fine for either. See USPSA appendix E4 for where stippling of tape may be applied (http://www.uspsa.org/rules/2010HandgunR ... of3web.pdf)... I do not think IDPA specifies.

I like AGrip (http://www.cpwsa.com/AGrip.htm). It's soft, not scratchy like skate tape, it doesn't catch on things, and it's great in wet/dry/sweaty/rainy conditions. The pre cut shapes are pretty good for the specified models, but plan on trimming it back a little more, especially if you want to follow the letter of USPSA specifications as to where tape may be applied.

#5 damnyankee

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 04:33 AM

I like the gritty stuff. 3M Outdoor Tread Tape 2" X 15'. $13.00 at Home Depot in the carpet deptarment. That's about 15 - 30 full grips depending on where you want it.

3M also makes a variety of other, non-gritty tread tapes. They're typically more expensive.

When you look at the pictures in the USPSA rule book, they illustrate a side view but you are allowed to include the frontstrap and backstrap areas. This lets you use a single piece of tape for most, if not all of the grip.

You can always change tape and tape patterns - you can't 'un-stipple'.
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#6 MedicYeti

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 06:21 AM

Per the IDPA Rule Book, available for all to see at www.idpa.com

PERMITTED Modifications (Inclusive list):
2. Grips may be changed to another style or material that is
similar to factory configuration (no weighted grips; see
“weighted grips” in glossary for further details).
3. A slip-on grip sock and/or skateboard tape may be used.

EXCLUDED Modifications (NON-Inclusive list):
2. Robar style grip reduction.

The rules for grip modifications are usually strictly followed at regional/national/international events. Club shoots aren't usually as strict about these issues.

I don't know about USPSA.

#7 ronhonda

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 10:42 AM

I currently use skate board tape on my G17 I got a whole sheet for $5 at sports authority. Depending on what game (IDPA or USPSA) you will play, tweek the grip as you like. Just bear in mind that if you stipple the grip you can't use it in IDPA. Also have you tried using the the hand grip lotion?
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#8 kristi

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 10:46 AM

+1

Stippling is also specifically excluded for IDPA SSP.

EXCLUDED Modifications (NON-Inclusive list):
1. Externally visible modifications other than grips or sights.
2. Robar style grip reduction.
3. Add-on magazine well opening.
4. Guide rods made of a material different from the factory part
it replaces.
5. Seattle Slug Grip Plug and similar weighted products.
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6. A barrel of another caliber that is not offered in the original
factory model.
7. Slide lightening (see “slide, lightening” in glossary for
further information).
8. Checkering and stippling.
9. Refer to Appendix ONE-A. Firearms-Non-IDPA-Legal
Modifications.

#9 LorenzoS

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 01:38 PM

Thanks guys. I'll look at some of the precut grip tape options.
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#10 ronhonda

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 05:27 PM

Save your money and cut your own and make it custom to you
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