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#1 DevsAdvocate

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 01:27 PM

How hard is it to become an FFL in this state? Can you take possession of firearms not normally allowed for civilian sale? Can you take those firearms out to the range at all?

What are some of the restrictions here?

#2 vjf915

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 01:32 PM

From my limited knowledge, it is a pretty lengthy process. I believe that you need something along the lines of a viable place to do business. I would imagine that if you do NOT own a shop, you would probably at least need a decent sized safe. As for taking the guns to a range, that is partially dependent upon the range rules. Some ranges specify that automatic fire is not allowed.

If I had to clean a gun my life depended on every day I'd be pissed off, you can't always do that. You should be able to kick the action open, piss in it, and close it. DONE.

+1 to you.. you have the single most important accessory ANY AR owner could ever own (myself included) and that is a backup AK..


#3 coldsolderjoint

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 01:46 PM

The main requirements to overcome are 1. local zoning laws (Have to be allowed to sell guns) and 2. selling/transferring guns for a profit/business.

If you are thinking about becoming an 01 FFL to get around laws of this state for hobby purposes, its not legal, and probably not worth it unless you alrealdy have an established business.
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#4 vjf915

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 01:59 PM

SO if your intended purpose is for profit, then it is legal.....but not to get around gun laws, even though that is a perk. Good to know. I have also been interested in this topic, so I will be keeping an eye on this!

If I had to clean a gun my life depended on every day I'd be pissed off, you can't always do that. You should be able to kick the action open, piss in it, and close it. DONE.

+1 to you.. you have the single most important accessory ANY AR owner could ever own (myself included) and that is a backup AK..


#5 CageFighter

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 02:36 PM

hmmm, anyone looking for a partner?
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#6 tj462nj

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 02:42 PM

How hard is it to become an FFL in this state? Can you take possession of firearms not normally allowed for civilian sale? Can you take those firearms out to the range at all?

What are some of the restrictions here?

if you pm me, I'll go over the process with you.

#7 CageFighter

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 03:17 PM

if you pm me, I'll go over the process with you.


Tony, can u cc me on that PM? I can open ur NORTH NJ office. :icon_idea:
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#8 Radek

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 04:55 PM

An FFL and a private range - that's the ticket to firearms nirvana!:icon_mrgreen:
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#9 Maksim

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 04:59 PM

The BATF has been cracking down on hobby FFL's... however the largest issue is not that, but rather getting the approval from the local boards.

As CSJ mentioned, you MUST first get approval from your town... your town will want to see a retail location for the most part. Then you apply to get NJ approval, then you apply for the BATF ffl approval.

#10 CageFighter

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 05:45 PM

anyone reccomend a "gun friendly" city in NORTH nj?
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#11 67gtonut

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 05:48 PM

The BATF has been cracking down on hobby FFL's... however the largest issue is not that, but rather getting the approval from the local boards.

As CSJ mentioned, you MUST first get approval from your town... your town will want to see a retail location for the most part. Then you apply to get NJ approval, then you apply for the BATF ffl approval.



...... and for all this time..... you are paying rent on a location that is generating no income for you..... because before you do even step 1 ..... you must have a LOCATION to put down on all the forms where you plan on conducting your business.

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#12 kenw

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 05:52 PM

anyone reccomend a "gun friendly" city in NORTH nj?

Any place in Sussex County other than Vernon or Sparta.
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#13 siderman

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 05:54 PM

Gun friendly....just a minute.. hmmm...ummmm....ummmm.....let me see now.....wait, no.....oh yea, wait no.....ummm....what about, nope.....ummm... gotta think ......

#14 Babaganoosh

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 06:19 PM

Theres prob a reason both Shore Shot and BA are both in Lakewood.
I doubt anyone actually expects that they will need to shoot a lot of people, or that anyone wants to do anything of the sort. It's a gun website. We love ANY excuse to load all of our magazines and handle our firearms

#15 halbautomatisch

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 01:42 PM

A few of the more important things to keep in mind.

As stated earlier the first hurdle is town zoning must approve your use for your retail location (or spend a lot of money in court).
You will need to have an actual business in operation - file all necessary paperwork with the IRS and NJ Div. of Taxation.
If you live in the same building you will need a separate entrance for you customers to enter directly into the sales area.
You will be inspected and audited regularly by the NJSP & ATF.
You will need a security system and other security measures that are approved by the NJSP.




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