The Truth About Gun Safes
Posted 20 January 2012 - 10:13 PM
Hopefully this can help anyone that is looking into one.
Posted 20 January 2012 - 11:10 PM
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Posted 21 January 2012 - 01:25 AM
Posted 21 January 2012 - 06:35 AM
Place your safe in a closet or something similar to a pantry to protect the walls and make the only point of entry the front which is the strongest side of these safes. Bolting it in buys you alot of time since they cant take it out of the enclosure to get at walls or knock it down to get leverage on prying the door open.
In the show it takes a thief the guy rarely spent more then 5-10 mins in a residental house usually it was less, and he usually avoided having to work on anything that would cause alot of noise. By surrounding your safe with some walls it gives you some big advantages with a lower end safe and buys you time which is the whole point of having a safe.
Posted 21 January 2012 - 07:39 AM
That said, can you imagine that giant Graffunder safe? The only way you're getting in that monster is with a torch and someone who knows how to use it. Holy crap that must be heavy.
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Posted 21 January 2012 - 08:28 AM
In general, as Mark above said, you get what you pay for. As a result, I stay away (in general) from things rated or named "Residential" just like some people stay away from things labeled Tactical. I have no professional experience to backup the following statement (only personal experience): It seems to me that a used commercial safe (often found on CraigsList) with a UL rating is far better than many of these RSC's.
In some cases, Contractor's Job Boxes (ala http://www.deltastorage.com/jobox.html) are often as secure or MORE secure than many RSC's though the RSC has a (questionable) fire rating. You could line a job box with two layers of fire rated sheetrock and in some cases equal or exceed many of these RSC's.
Also, some guys think a 5 spoke wheel on the front of the safe makes it more secure, nothing could be further from the truth. Some of the ugliest dingiest nastiest looking used safes on the internet are far more secure than that "pretty" new safe. Looks can be deceiving.
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Posted 21 January 2012 - 09:52 AM
As predicted, $$ makes a difference. Comes down to your risk factor, typically based on the value of your guns x perceived probability that someone will try to steal them. Of course consider other things like if you are nearly always home, have a home security system, dog, surveillance, heavy duty security door on your gun room, etc. The safe is just another delay mechanism the bad guys have to get through.
Posted 21 January 2012 - 10:08 AM
Posted 22 January 2012 - 12:00 AM
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 02:14 AM
Posted 22 January 2012 - 11:11 AM
Posted 22 January 2012 - 01:25 PM
I think one needs to distinguish between some of the top-of-the-line estate safes which this guy is selling (with that one with $150K in valuables in his backroom which the robbers tried to pry), and gun safes, which hold a strictly utilitarian purpose. With the post's title being The truth about Gun Safes, I think that's the focus. If someone comes to my home with a thermic lance, chances are, they can easily have far better guns than I will ever be holding in my meager safe, what do you think?
I think the basic principle of a safe is pretty universal; to keep what is inside safe from external elements (e.g. fire, water, people). I'm guessing the distinction between safes is just marketing related based on size, price, quality, and perceived use. Most people realize any safe can be broken into with enough time and tools. Therefore, you're paying for time and resilience. Higher quality safes give more of both.
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