jonny.montana 48 Posted January 22, 2012 Is there any legal way of getting a Suppressor Or Silencer? Someone told me that I can get it if I pay for the tax stamp... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted January 22, 2012 Not legal in NJ. Out of state, yes, $200 tax stamp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midwest 28 Posted January 22, 2012 In some states..$200 tax stamp, fingerprints, pictures, LEO has to sign off on it, takes up to 4 to 6 month wait across the board. http://www.thehighroad.org/forumdisplay.php?f=58 NFA section on THR Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1down5up 7 Posted January 22, 2012 In some states..$200 tax stamp, fingerprints, pictures, LEO has to sign off on it, takes up to 4 to 6 month wait across the board. http://www.thehighro...isplay.php?f=58 NFA section on THR Yep, or setup a NFA Trust and forget the photos, fingerprints, and CLEO signature. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonny.montana 48 Posted January 22, 2012 Yep, or setup a NFA Trust and forget the photos, fingerprints, and CLEO signature. Sorry for the ignorant question.. But what is a NFA Trust Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted January 22, 2012 Is there any legal way of getting a Suppressor Or Silencer? Someone told me that I can get it if I pay for the tax stamp... In NJ?? No, Completely prohibited under NJ state Law. Most other states they are permitted, as long as you go through the process of getting your Tax Stamp from BATFE. As for the trust route...here http://forums.office...oute-to-the-NFA is a link to a post that explains it pretty well. One thing though, ALthough it doesnt apply here in NJ..ATF is starting to have "Issues" with self-done trusts from Quicken and will-maker..everyone I know of who has gone the trust route has spent the money (usually under $500) to have an attorney familiar with the NFA process do the trust for them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted January 22, 2012 Sorry for the ignorant question.. But what is a NFA Trust Google is your friend. Please ask him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midwest 28 Posted January 22, 2012 NFA Trust , those listed in the trust can use the item as well. If a person dies the item stays in the trust. NFA items include, silencers, machine guns, short barreled rifles/shotguns, destructive devices like Striker 12 and over .50 cal guns, AOW like pen guns, cane guns and wallet guns. AOW only requires a $5 tax stamp but still requires the 4 to 6 month wait and the paperwork unless going the trust route.. Surprisingly New Jersey allows a Machine Gun, Short Barrel and AOW. Chances are it will be impossible to get. Surprisingly Connecticut is a NFA state but allows only full auto but not select fire, while Vermont does not allow silencers it allows everything else. In some other states like Missouri a C & R license is needed as well. Virginia all NFA items have to be registered with the State. California allows most of them , but approval is said to be impossible to get. New York...nyet...and so on. If you thought the conceal carry laws were confusing from state to state...look at the NFA laws from state to state and the odd requirements for each. Some are trying to start petitions to get some NFA items off the NFA list like silencers and SBS. Others are trying to get rid of the Hughes Amendment which only allows machine guns registered before 1986, so that newer machine guns can be sold. Only machine guns in the registry before 1986 can be sold to the public, that is why those machine guns generally run $10,000 to $20,000 or more. Otherwise post 1986 machine guns run $1000 or less, but they cannot legally be sold to the public. http://www.texasnfatrust.com/NFA%20Laws%20by%20State.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted January 22, 2012 NFA Trust , those listed in the trust can use the item as well. If a person dies the item stays in the trust. NFA items include, silencers, machine guns, short barreled rifles/shotguns, destructive devices like Striker 12 and over .50 cal guns, AOW like pen guns, cane guns and wallet guns. AOW only requires a $5 tax stamp but still requires the 4 to 6 month wait and the paperwork unless going the trust route.. Surprisingly New Jersey allows a Machine Gun, Short Barrel and AOW. Chances are it will be impossible to get. Surprisingly Connecticut is a NFA state but allows only full auto but not select fire, while Vermont does not allow silencers it allows everything else. In some other states like Missouri a C & R license is needed as well. Virginia all NFA items have to be registered with the State. California allows most of them , but approval is said to be impossible to get. New York...nyet...and so on. If you thought the conceal carry laws were confusing from state to state...look at the NFA laws from state to state and the odd requirements for each. Some are trying to start petitions to get some NFA items off the NFA list like silencers and SBS. Others are trying to get rid of the Hughes Amendment which only allows machine guns registered before 1986, so that newer machine guns can be sold. Only machine guns in the registry before 1986 can be sold to the public, that is why those machine guns generally run $10,000 to $20,000 or more. Otherwise post 1986 machine guns run $1000 or less, but they cannot legally be sold to the public. http://www.texasnfat...0by%20State.htm Machineguns are Statutorily permitted, SBR and AOW's are NOT. that said, in order to get a Machinegun permit, you have to show a Substantive need for one, and on top of that you would have to get a CLEO Signoff from the chief of every municipality you would have to travel through from where you live to where you shoot it. It is a Practical ban, if not a Statutory one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DevsAdvocate 112 Posted January 22, 2012 friggin Hughes, what an asshole for ruining machine guns in our country. Getting that overturned will take a lot of effort... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted January 22, 2012 friggin Hughes, what an asshole for ruining machine guns in our country. Getting that overturned will take a lot of effort... The really sad part was, that the hughes ammendment was done OUTSIDE of the bounds and rules of the House, and failed it's voice vote. the transcripts and raw video were finally acquired from the House Archives, and it's pretty clear that they really screwed the pooch on it...problem is, almost 30 years later nobody wants to address it, and nobody wants to rock the boat and mess with FOPA. There's an archived thread about it on Arfcom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonny.montana 48 Posted January 22, 2012 well i just went out of state lol this is something that we all should do... Shooting the supressor was different than what I expected, a lot of smoke went to my face. About the UMP, was easier to handle than a lot of full auto rifles. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites