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#1 diamondd817

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 07:34 AM

I got the Ruger SR22 and I am having FTF problems with American Eagle 40 Grain High Velocity Lead Round Nose ammo. Im not sure if I just got a bad batch of ammo, or its the ammo brand, or the pistol.

The slide is short stroking and not picking up the next round in the magazine. This didn't happen with the first 40rds of American Eagle 38gr HV HP Plated 22lr.

What are your experieces with 22lr ammo in autoloader pistols?
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#2 Wolfy

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 07:45 AM

22's can be ammo sensitive so what works in one man's gun may not work in yours. Did you check the owners manual?
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#3 hd2000fxdl

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 07:50 AM

22's can be ammo sensitive so what works in one man's gun may not work in yours. Did you check the owners manual?


^^^ This.

In addition, is the gun new and just being broken in??

What to the mags look like, are they holding the next round at the proper angle or letting it point up to much.

If new, my GSG had a problem the first 5 mags of CCI and I switched to Federal Bulk 525 packs and it worked perfectly after that. Note I also had to run the gun wet during the break in. Now she fires just about anything I have feed her.

Is the gun dirty??? Yea I know but had to ask being 22LR is a dirty round anyway.
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#4 diamondd817

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 07:56 AM

Gun is new. 190rds so far. The first 40 cycled fine with AE 38gr, the next 150 with AE 40gr which is when I started gettin the FTF's. No prior cleaning. I took the pistol home yesterday a cleaned real good and lubed. Have not shot since. Mags feed fine, i had 1 round that was out of align in the mag, but that was my fault. I definitely seemed to get worse as I shot more. I am hoping it's a combo of a dirty gun and weak ammo.

I just went and ordered more of that AE 38gr HV HP plated 22lr.
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#5 diamondd817

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 07:58 AM

22's can be ammo sensitive so what works in one man's gun may not work in yours. Did you check the owners manual?


Since I know everything there is to possibly know about guns, i didn't read the manual.

J/K
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#6 hd2000fxdl

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:00 AM

Gun is new. 190rds so far. The first 40 cycled fine with AE 38gr, the next 150 with AE 40gr which is when I started gettin the FTF's. No prior cleaning. I took the pistol home yesterday a cleaned real good and lubed. Have not shot since. Mags feed fine, i had 1 round that was out of align in the mag, but that was my fault. I definitely seemed to get worse as I shot more. I am hoping it a dirty gun and weak ammo.

I just went and ordered more of that AE 38gr HV HP plated 22lr.


Here is a good practice to get into. I know when you first get a gun you want nothing more than to throw a bunch of rounds down the range but don't do that.

Field strip the gun and clean off all the shipping grease and/or oil. Re-lube the gun and put her back together.

This does a few things, you get to check out the gun, see how everything works, make sure nothing is noticeably wrong and put the proper lube on the gun. That crap they ship with is more to prevent rust.

Also alway bring a few different types of ammo the first time just to ops check the gun..
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#7 glennp

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:04 AM

Here is a good practice to get into. I know when you first get a gun you want nothing more than to throw a bunch of rounds down the range but don't do that.

Field strip the gun and clean off all the shipping grease and/or oil. Re-lube the gun and put her back together.

This does a few things, you get to check out the gun, see how everything works, make sure nothing is noticeably wrong and put the proper lube on the gun. That crap they ship with is more to prevent rust.

Also alway bring a few different types of ammo the first time just to ops check the gun..


Exactly what he said. What the guns ship with is not a lubricant as much as it is a preservative. It traps junk and gets goopy fast
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#8 diamondd817

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:05 AM

Here is a good practice to get into. I know when you first get a gun you want nothing more than to throw a bunch of rounds down the range but don't do that.

Field strip the gun and clean off all the shipping grease and/or oil. Re-lube the gun and put her back together.

This does a few things, you get to check out the gun, see how everything works, make sure nothing is noticeably wrong and put the proper lube on the gun. That crap they ship with is more to prevent rust.

Also alway bring a few different types of ammo the first time just to ops check the gun..


I do usually practice this, but the last 2 pistols I bought (G26, SR22) I just decided to shoot them out of the box. LIke I said, i did take home and cleaned/lubed real well after the range trip, and I did leave it a little wetter than usual. I got to try again this week.

Also, i did have a couple of the 40gr rounds fail to fire. I really leaning towards a bad/weak batch of ammo.
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#9 diamondd817

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:13 AM

Where do you get your 525 bulk packs from? I think ill try some of this.
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#10 lunker

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:33 AM

Federal Bulk packs work great in every 22 I have ever used. also, I run my 22 guns WET. I spray the crap out of them with CLP and shoot 'em.

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#11 RedBowTies88

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:45 AM

blazer bulk should work great if cci mini-mags work for you.
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#12 Mr.G

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:54 AM

blazer bulk should work great if cci mini-mags work for you.


+ 1
Sig recommends CCI mini-mag for my P226 conversion but I was having failure to feed. Blazer seem to have fixed that.
I use cci-mini mag for my M&P 15-22 and it runs flawless!!

I'm not sure if Ruger recommends or certified ammos for your pistol but M&P does

Recommended ammo by S&W for M&P 15-22

Good 22LR Ammo
CCI Mini-Mag
CCI standard velocity
Aguila Super Extra Std Velocity
Aguila Super Extra Ext Velocity
Federal American Eagle
Federal Game Shock
Winchester Super-X High Velocity

S&W listed not to use
Remington Gold Bullet
Remington Target 22
Sub-sonic Brands and Types
Remington Thunderbolt
Winchester Wildcat

#13 hd2000fxdl

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:54 AM

I got federal bulk pack from a combination of Dunns I think was the name, Cabelas, and I can't remember the other place but I usually pick up 5K plus each time I order when I see them on sale, heck you can never have enough 22LR on hand, Great for a Zombie attack...

Let us know how you make out on your next range visit..
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#14 Pizza Bob

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:56 AM

CCI Mini Mags (40 gr solids) are the rounds recommended by many firearms manufacturers for finicky guns. Personally, I've had good luck with Federal Auto Match.

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#15 NJdiverTony

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:04 AM

As some have suggested above, stick with CCI Mini Mags. I only will use Mini Mags in all of my .22's and never had a single failure EVER. yes, they do cost a little more than going the cheap bulk pack route, but spending the couple of extra bucks is worth it for me. It's good ammo.
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#16 woodentoe

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:28 AM

Unlike many small frame .22 autoloaders, Ruger says that standard velocity ammo is recommended for the SR .22

Just read a review of the pistol that said so on gunsandammo.com
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#17 FishNJ

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:35 AM

Federal Champion 525 rd bulk packs cycle all the 22LR semi autos I have shot the best of any ammo.

#18 Sigman

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:35 AM

CCI Mini Mags (40 gr solids) are the rounds recommended by many firearms manufacturers for finicky guns. Personally, I've had good luck with Federal Auto Match.

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The CCI minimags have been the best so far, but the federal bulk packs work fine. I've used these in a GSG-5 and Walther P22. Check to see if the slide was greased. I would just oil it.
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#19 Pizza Bob

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:43 AM

Unlike many small frame .22 autoloaders, Ruger says that standard velocity ammo is recommended for the SR .22

Just read a review of the pistol that said so on gunsandammo.com


Not exactly. Most SV rounds are compatible - that doesn't mean "recommended". Here's the statement from the article you reference...

"Ruger also emphasizes that while most small-scale blowback .22 rimfire pistols function reliably only with high-velocity ammunition, the SR22P is compatible with all .22 Long Rifle cartridges “loaded to U.S. industry standards,” with the possible exception of subsonic and some match-grade loads that may not have sufficient energy to cycle the slide. The company suggestion, should that happen, is simply “try another brand of ammo.”"

SV ammo is best used in target grade .22 autos, such as Hi-Standards or S&W model 41's.

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#20 Ronald Silver

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 05:27 PM

Try CCI standard velocity
and clean new pistols before use.

#21 this_is_nascar

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 05:51 PM

Use Federal Bulk (load #745), CCI or Aguila. If you gun has problems with them, you may want to get the gun looked at.
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#22 Urban Grunt

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 06:11 PM

I did use Federal bulk 525 packs witch is great, but i have a deal (on going) on Federal Gold Medal HV Match 5,000 rounds at a time .

#23 this_is_nascar

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:26 AM

I did use Federal bulk 525 packs witch is great, but i have a deal (on going) on Federal Gold Medal HV Match 5,000 rounds at a time .



Yep, that's the load #745 that I was referring to. It's much different, in my experiences, than the Federal Champion load #510. The 745's will fire in anything and everything. No so for the 510's.
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#24 diamondd817

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:30 AM

Yep, that's the load #745 that I was referring to. It's much different, in my experiences, than the Federal Champion load #510. The 745's will fire in anything and everything. No so for the 510's.


How do you know which load is which if you buy online?
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#25 this_is_nascar

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:34 AM

Good question. Every Federal 525 Round Value Pack that I've ever seen is the load #745.

http://www.cabelas.c...ch-All Products
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#26 diamondd817

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:51 AM

The CCI minimags have been the best so far, but the federal bulk packs work fine. I've used these in a GSG-5 and Walther P22. Check to see if the slide was greased. I would just oil it.


That CCI stuff seems a little pricey. Kinda defeats the purpose, no?
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#27 ChrisJM981

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:23 AM

The RUGER® SR22TM PISTOLS are compatible with all factory
ammunition of the correct caliber loaded to U.S. Industry Standards, including
high-velocity and hollow-point loads. However, sub-sonic or match-grade
ammunition may not have sufficient energy to cycle the slide. If you find that the
slide does not cycle fully, try another brand of ammunition.


Depends how much you're paying for a box of minimags to consider it expensive. :) You can find it online for $6 for a box of 100. I also like Federal Game Shok 40 gr copper plated. That you can find for under $5.50 for a box of 100.

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#28 diamondd817

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:27 AM

Depends how much you're paying for a box of minimags to consider it expensive. :) You can find it online for $6 for a box of 100. I also like Federal Game Shok 40 gr copper plated. That you can find for under $5.50 for a box of 100.

Federal Bulk http://www.ableammo....60-p-73984.html


Oh. I looked quick and thought it was $6 for 50rds. I guess it's not bad then.
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#29 RedBowTies88

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:31 AM

As some have suggested above, stick with CCI Mini Mags. I only will use Mini Mags in all of my .22's and never had a single failure EVER. yes, they do cost a little more than going the cheap bulk pack route, but spending the couple of extra bucks is worth it for me. It's good ammo.

That CCI stuff seems a little pricey. Kinda defeats the purpose, no?


Blazer bulk packs are exactly the same load and bullet as 40gr minimags. just without the copper washing on the bullet. Blazer is owned by cci/speer. $20 for 525 rounds at dicks.




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#30 Twospot

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 03:46 PM

I do usually practice this, but the last 2 pistols I bought (G26, SR22) I just decided to shoot them out of the box. LIke I said, i did take home and cleaned/lubed real well after the range trip, and I did leave it a little wetter than usual. I got to try again this week.

Also, i did have a couple of the 40gr rounds fail to fire. I really leaning towards a bad/weak batch of ammo.

When I got my SR22 the shop said it was no problem to fire it right out of the box. I should have listened to you guys. Ordering a cleaning kit LOL.
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