blksheep 466 Posted September 29, 2013 Thinking about getting into it. I have an almost 20 year old 870 express that has changed its format over the years from a wood stock 28" stock gun to a HD 18.5 " to a pistol grip zombie killer now back to a 28" stock gun with hogue stock. My question. Should I "start" with this gun or maybe get a 20 gauge. What do most people use 12 or 20? Is one cheaper than the other? One a side note I put a side saddle shell holder on the 870. I try to get it off but I stripped the screws that hold the trigger group into the receiver. Does anyone have the stock pins to hold the trigger group into the receiver. I would like to use this as a trap guns maybe but the shell holder looks kind of tacticool and would like to get rid of it. Thanks, Rick Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted September 29, 2013 It all depends on what kind of clay busting you are talking about. Informal or Singles Trap is only a single shot at a time, so a pump is no.disadvantage. A long barrel (i.e. 28" or more), especially a ribbed one, would be helpful. Trap shots are always rising (unless you wait way to long), so an aftermarket strap on cheek riser would be helpful to keep your point of impact high. Skeet and Sporting clays are hard enough with a double or semi-auto gun. Doing them with a pump is hard. Personally, I love 20 gauge guns, but know that the ammo is 25% more expensive than 12 gauge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted September 29, 2013 Definetly 12g because you will have longer shots and better abilty to hit them than w/ 20g Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted September 29, 2013 The barrel is a vent rib OEM barrel. I always wanted a semi but not reasonable at this point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted September 29, 2013 If your shooting sporting clays, you only need a 20ga. Trap, I would go 12ga. Skeet and 5stand you can shoot 20. Ammo is priced the same as 12 from what I can tell. I have a 20ga I am selling if you're interested. Also have several cases of 20ga ammo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted September 29, 2013 PM Sent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted September 29, 2013 The barrel is a vent rib OEM barrel. I always wanted a semi but not reasonable at this point. One of the best things about shotguns is that it takes a hell of a lot of shooting before it is "shot out". I would not hesitate to buy a good condition used shotgun. You could get an older Rem 1100 in beautiful shape, made much better than today's product, for $500 or less. The only major thing to look out for is corrosion on guns that were used for hunting, as they may have been routinely exposed to bad weather and not maintained well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted September 29, 2013 I think in almost 20 years of having the shotgun it may have 150 shells through it. It was my first gun, had it since new. It went through its phases of coolness but its my dedicated clay buster now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted September 29, 2013 And most of those went through the 18.5" barrel. This barrel may have 50 rounds down it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Night Prowler 0 Posted September 29, 2013 I met a guy with a this weekend. His first and only shotgun was an 870 he bought brand new in 61. He said he used it for everything. After all these years he finally killed it and bought a new one. Use what you have until your skill develops and then get what you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm1827 284 Posted September 30, 2013 I have an 870 that my father bought in 64' and gave to me after I graduated college. I have used it for trap and skeet and slugs and it is still my go to shotgun. And it still shoots perfectly after all these years, especially after a few years when I used to shoot 3-4 times a week and went through 100-150 rounds at a time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oldspice 0 Posted September 30, 2013 Bring it to the shootout on the 12th in clinton and see how it runs....then take it from there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AS350Driver 56 Posted September 30, 2013 blksheep, come out to CJ this Sunday for first and last Sunday trap. You can get your check out on the machines and then give trap a try. One of the guys who runs it, John, can give you some great clay shooting tips. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted September 30, 2013 I would love to. I will be away this weekend. Trying to setup an appointment to use the machines too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted September 30, 2013 A few of us are getting together at Clinton on the 6th and then again on the official meet on the 12th. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted October 1, 2013 As everyone else said, come to the shotgun shootout. Its informal, fun, and you'll get to meet a ton of good people a.k.a. forum members. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted January 2, 2015 Bumping this from over a year ago. Anyone go to CJRPC for sporting clays? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted January 2, 2015 Bumping this from over a year ago. Anyone go to CJRPC for sporting clays? Do you mean 5-stand? Or has CJ set up a Sporting Clays course? I enjoy shooting 5-stand more than skeet or trap, but found a fair number of douche-ey folks shooting 5-stand there on weekend mornings. I stopped and went back to shooting at the trap field with John and those guys just because I liked the crowd better. Of course it's been over a year since I've been, so things may be different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted January 2, 2015 Trap skeet or 5 stand. Doesnt matter to me. Trying to get some people to go. Im checked out on the machines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted January 2, 2015 I shoot there. Generally I shoot trap. Let me know a day when it's not freezing and I'll go. Saturday or Sunday is best for me. Also, I have a flat of 8 shit 12ga if you need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted January 2, 2015 Bryan, ill call u in the am about the 8.Gots to be up at 0400. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikeythumbs 1 Posted January 2, 2015 Give me a yell on this if you guys go I'd be up for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted January 2, 2015 Definitely Mikey. Hopefully it warms up to above 40 one day and well shoot for it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sparks450r 0 Posted January 5, 2015 Give me a yell on this if you guys go I'd be up for it +1 I'm in as well, would like to get into clays. Also got cleared on the machines but the explanation on how to use them wasn't the greatest and would like to see more first hand before I just jump out there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted January 5, 2015 You aint kidding. Need more time on the machines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted January 24, 2015 Worked the machines all by ourself on Wednesday. Went off without a hitch. Who's in? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rifleman 90 Posted January 24, 2015 Thursday night trap all winter 6 - 9 PM at CJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted January 25, 2015 How much ammo should I bring? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted January 25, 2015 100 shells should be gold. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites