Jfoster99 80 Posted February 19, 2014 I think I know the answer here but is there any way I can legally conduct a training class ( with actual Handguns) at a location other then my home, the range or a permanent business location. I would like to be able to rent a conf. room someplace to conduct the training. Is renting a conference room at say the local VFW hall an option? ( doubt it) However, I was thinking one of the time share type office retails.... Where numerous tenants rent the space and you reserve it the days you want to use it.... I could likely get an actual lease, and everything. Any thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted February 19, 2014 paraphrasing "nothing in this subsection shall prevent an owner from keeping a firearm at his place of business..." But since you're not going to be shooting there, what exactly is the point of using real handguns? Safety can be taught without them. If you're teaching cleaning, this I could see as being a valid reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jfoster99 80 Posted February 19, 2014 Part of the class is cleaning, field strip, and learning the battery of arms on multiple types of handguns.... Just not the same without them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted February 19, 2014 Handguns no..not an exempted location. Long guns then yes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,634 Posted February 19, 2014 And learning the battery of arms on multiple types of handguns... What's the "battery of arms"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
67gtonut 847 Posted February 19, 2014 I think I know the answer here but is there any way I can legally conduct a training class ( with actual Handguns) at a location other then my home, the range or a permanent business location. I would like to be able to rent a conf. room someplace to conduct the training. Is renting a conference room at say the local VFW hall an option? ( doubt it) However, I was thinking one of the time share type office retails.... Where numerous tenants rent the space and you reserve it the days you want to use it.... I could likely get an actual lease, and everything. Any thoughts? Call RTSP . ..... They built 3 small classrooms specifically for this use...... already set up with monitors with NRA Basic Pistol Powerpoint loaded in..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jfoster99 80 Posted February 19, 2014 RTSP is a little far.... Trying to setup shop in North Jersey... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jfoster99 80 Posted February 19, 2014 What's the "battery of arms"? I meant "Manual of Arms" - the specific operating procedures of a particular weapon...safety...trigger...action...etc... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted February 19, 2014 Call RTSP . ..... They built 3 small classrooms specifically for this use...... already set up with monitors with NRA Basic Pistol Powerpoint loaded in..... I doubt they would rent a classroom. Don't they conduct classes? Kind of like helping your competition. If they would rent the classroom they might make the rental fee so high you would have to charge a lot more than everyone else does. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted February 19, 2014 RTSP is a little far.... Trying to setup shop in North Jersey... What EXACTLY do YOU consider North Jersey? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jfoster99 80 Posted February 19, 2014 What EXACTLY do YOU consider North Jersey? Bergan County or at least north of Rt 80... RTSP is almost an hour from me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
67gtonut 847 Posted February 19, 2014 I doubt they would rent a classroom. Don't they conduct classes? Kind of like helping your competition. If they would rent the classroom they might make the rental fee so high you would have to charge a lot more than everyone else does. Actually.... That is exactly why they have those classrooms... For independent NRA instructors to hold classes...... Introduce new shooters to their range Sell guns and memberships to new shooters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Respect2A 0 Posted February 20, 2014 Go to remixers house. Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,365 Posted February 20, 2014 Actually.... That is exactly why they have those classrooms... For independent NRA instructors to hold classes...... Introduce new shooters to their range Sell guns and memberships to new shooters Okay then. Never been there. Not familiar with their operation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted February 20, 2014 Bergan County or at least north of Rt 80... RTSP is almost an hour from me OH. You meant LIBERAL North Jersey. K. Why don't you get out of West NYC and come see the REAL North Jersey? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RTSP1 67 Posted February 21, 2014 As 67Gtonut said, we do rent out all of our classrooms to outside instructors. Instructors must be insured, name RTSP as other insured and have proof that they are certified to teach the course they are instructing on. See below: CLASSROOM #5 – W/O AV SUPPORT · 1-4 Students · $25/HR · $50.00 Range/ 1HR - 1 port CLASSROOM #3 &4 – WITH AV SUPPORT · 8 student max per classroom · $50/HR · $90.00 Range/ 1HR-1 port CLASSROOM #2 – WITH AV SUPPORT · 9 student minimum/ 20 student maximum · 2 Instructors must be provided · $75/HR · $180.00 Range/ 1HR with 2 ports CLASSROOM #1 –WITH AV SUPPORT · 21-50 students · 20-30 students requires a minimum of 3 instructors · 31-40 students requires a minimum of 4 instructors · 41 or more students requires 5 instructors · $150/ HR · $360.00 Range/ 1HR with 4 ports Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genewarper111 18 Posted April 7, 2014 Just to check I'm reading this correctly... Is that top one $50/hr for one range port? Thx G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RTSP1 67 Posted April 7, 2014 That is correct. So let's look at it, if you teach a first steps type class and charge your students say $150.00 for the four hour class. Well that classroom costs $25 an hour x 4=$100.00 and $50 for the range = 150.00. If you get the max for the room 4 students, it looks like you are making profiting $450.00 every 4 hours you teach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genewarper111 18 Posted April 7, 2014 Sorry, didn't mean to come across as complaining. The arithmetic is appealing, even if the class is set up as less minimalist than you propose. I am curios though why the jump to $90/hr for range time for other options. But it's your facility, so your rules ( and I've shot there.. Great range) G Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RTSP1 67 Posted April 7, 2014 Did not take it that way at all, please if you have a better idea or suggestion I would love to here it. If you like, my personal email and number are below. Nothing is set in stone with us, we are learning on the fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites