Boejoula 0 Posted February 22, 2014 Upper Spikes Tactical light-weight complete upper (mid-length gas) - ($650) Spikes Tactical INFIDEL dust cover - ($20) Magpul MOE mid-length hand guard Troy industries folding rear sight - ($110) Rainier Arms RAPTOR charge handle Lower Spikes Tactical Punisher receiver - ($130) Geissele SDC - ($196) Magpul B.A.D. lever Magpul C.T.R. - -($60) Magpul MOE trigger guard Stag Arms buffer set Battle Arms pivot/take-down pins- ($30) Battle Arms Safety selector CAA pistol grip Seekins Precision billet mag button Troy OEM M4 BattleSling Mount - ($45) Optics - $662 Aimpoint PRO - ($390) Primary Arms 3x long eye relief magnifer - ($130) Larue Tactical FTS mount - ($162) Accessories VTAC bungee sling Magpul MOE rail mount IWC mount-n-slot with quick disconnect Bipod mount with quick disconnect Now I don't plan on going crazy with mods right away, I do plan on changing what ever I don't like after a few trips to the range and a few hundred rounds through it. I do plan on a new trigger but have to try some triggers somewhere.This turned out to be B.S.Any criticism, comments, and suggestions welcomed.I would like to thanks @vladtepes for helping pick out the parts and put me in the right direction with the build. And for answering all of my questions without hesitation (there were a lot). More pictures will be added to My Gallery: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/gallery/album/23-first-ar-first-build/ and throughout this thread Edit: Update and Organize lists for myself Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,655 Posted February 22, 2014 I stock and shoot M193 and M855, from Federal, IMI, and PMC for my standard 'everyday' ammo. Out to about 300 yards the M193 works well enough. I find that from 300-600, the M855 is a little more consistent, although it is nowhere even close to being 'match' ammunition. I shoot Black Hills 77 gr SMK's for longer range, higher precision shooting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbkid6974 1 Posted February 24, 2014 honestly just buy the cheapest ammo that will run in you gun. i have a BCM upper and some reports have said that steel cased .223 ammo gives it problems. i put 100 rounds through it last week without an issue. on top of that it hasn't been properly cleaned in over 1300 rounds. i want to push it to the limit to see how long it performs so i just relube after each range trip. my buddy just gave me a mag that he said wouldn't run in his gun. it ran fine in mine. so figure out what she likes and stick to that. maybe you'll get lucky and she'll like everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtornado23 0 Posted February 24, 2014 honestly just buy the cheapest ammo that will run in you gun. i have a BCM upper and some reports have said that steel cased .223 ammo gives it problems. i put 100 rounds through it last week without an issue. on top of that it hasn't been properly cleaned in over 1300 rounds. i want to push it to the limit to see how long it performs so i just relube after each range trip. my buddy just gave me a mag that he said wouldn't run in his gun. it ran fine in mine. so figure out what she likes and stick to that. maybe you'll get lucky and she'll like everything. i had a friend make the comment that he would only run steel through his "cheap ar" - i'd rather have a rifle that will fire anything and everything i can get my hands on. i also just fired steel cased 223 (Wolf WPA) through my ar for the first time with no issues whatsoever...and i'll continue to do so. if it works, it works Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted February 25, 2014 Isn't the steel cased ammo more dirty than brass? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted February 25, 2014 Isn't the steel cased ammo more dirty than brass? Steel isn't as elastic as brass and doesn't expand to seal the chamber as well so you get more carbon build up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted February 25, 2014 Steel isn't as elastic as brass and doesn't expand to seal the chamber as well so you get more carbon build up.Thanks midwest Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted February 25, 2014 Updated my original post. She's all done, pics to come. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted February 25, 2014 glad I could help you with it.. looking forward to some pics... I like to shoot whatever brass.. but I prefer to stock and shoot xm193 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted February 26, 2014 Edit: Added pics Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SW99 2 Posted February 27, 2014 Looks great! Love the break. I ordered a ton of PMC Bronze way before the ammo crisis of 2013 and have NEVER had a problem with it. Just got a stock of Independence 55grain 5.56 XM193 2 days ago and will try that this weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HKHockey 5 Posted March 1, 2014 Federal XM193 and Federal XM855. Have *ahem* a decent amount stocked up. Good if you are just punching paper. If you are going for the smallest possible holes you can possibly make you are going to need to shell out some good money for glass and start looking at different types of SMKs, BTHPs, VMax, etc, etc. Not a fan of the KNS anti-roll pins either. I have never seen the point. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted March 2, 2014 Federal XM193 and Federal XM855. Have *ahem* a decent amount stocked up. Good if you are just punching paper. If you are going for the smallest possible holes you can possibly make you are going to need to shell out some good money for glass and start looking at different types of SMKs, BTHPs, VMax, etc, etc. Not a fan of the KNS anti-roll pins either. I have never seen the point. decided not to get them after some further reading.. no point lol Looks great! Love the break. I ordered a ton of PMC Bronze way before the ammo crisis of 2013 and have NEVER had a problem with it. Just got a stock of Independence 55grain 5.56 XM193 2 days ago and will try that this weekend. thanks glad I could help you with it.. looking forward to some pics... I like to shoot whatever brass.. but I prefer to stock and shoot xm193 probably going to get the xm193, seems to be the concencus. more pics coming from the range tomorrow. hope it doesnt take me the whole trip to zero it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HKHockey 5 Posted March 2, 2014 What zero are you going after? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted March 2, 2014 What zero are you going after? Was just trying to get 25 yds today. New to AR so was just getting used to the sight picture as well. Its still a little low. Will finish it next trip. Ultimate goal is 50/200 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted March 18, 2014 Have an EOtech coming soon. Giessle SSA ready to go in. Few more parts on list coming soon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted March 18, 2014 Have an EOtech coming soon. boooooo Giessle SSA ready to go in. yaaay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbkid6974 1 Posted March 18, 2014 Have an EOtech coming soon. Giessle SSA ready to go in. Few more parts on list coming soon im with vlad. boooooo on the EOtech. yaaay on the geissele. in my opinion aimpoints are much better in every way. they take a huge beating and still keep working. plus, the battery lasts for 50000+ hours (5 years) of constant on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted March 18, 2014 Meh. I like my eotech. Much better reticle, faster imo. The sight picture with eotechs are my preference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted March 19, 2014 Meh. I like my eotech. Much better reticle, faster imo. The sight picture with eotechs are my preference. faster is subjective... I would argue having used both AImpoint is faster.. additionally when magnified you are dealing with a 2moa dot magnified as opposed to some giant reticle.. but again I will chalk that up to opinion... aimpoint factually has less instances of mass failure aimpoint also has a longer battery life.. aimpoint I believe also comes in cheaper.. with a NV compatible model that includes a mount at under $400 so you can like eotechs no issue there.. but I find no factual reason that one is "better" than an aimpoint... and if you can tolerate the small tube nothing really compares to the micro aimpoints... sure they are money.. but indestructible and absurdly lightweight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted March 19, 2014 faster is subjective... I would argue having used both AImpoint is faster.. additionally when magnified you are dealing with a 2moa dot magnified as opposed to some giant reticle.. but again I will chalk that up to opinion... aimpoint factually has less instances of mass failure aimpoint also has a longer battery life.. aimpoint I believe also comes in cheaper.. with a NV compatible model that includes a mount at under $400 so you can like eotechs no issue there.. but I find no factual reason that one is "better" than an aimpoint... and if you can tolerate the small tube nothing really compares to the micro aimpoints... sure they are money.. but indestructible and absurdly lightweight I'm not interested in getting into another pissing contest about eotechs and aimpoints. I said I prefer them for MY reasons. I never said either was better than the other. I'm happy with my sight and I'm glad youre happy with yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted March 19, 2014 Btw Vlad I'm not trying to be a tool. Its just a dead horse issue that I don't feel like re hashing anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted March 19, 2014 Btw Vlad I'm not trying to be a tool. Its just a dead horse issue that I don't feel like re hashing anymore. This is definitely a dead horse issue. i researched the shit out of both and had a lot of trouble deciding. i bought the EOtech simply out of ease. came across a good deal, good enough that if i don't like it a can get really close to what i paid. if i can find an aimpoint to play with i would be happy. decide what works best for ME. I have taking a lot of advice from Vlad and haven't been let down yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted March 19, 2014 On a side note, i just ordered a few things Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted March 19, 2014 This is definitely a dead horse issue. i researched the shit out of both and had a lot of trouble deciding. i bought the EOtech simply out of ease. came across a good deal, good enough that if i don't like it a can get really close to what i paid. if i can find an aimpoint to play with i would be happy. decide what works best for ME. I have taking a lot of advice from Vlad and haven't been let down yet. I'm willing to bet neither will let you down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted March 19, 2014 Like what? I ordered a bunch of stuff too for one of my ars. I switched it to a longer range gun, put a scope, free float rail, larue clips, a raptor CH, and a Geiselle trigger. Seen another omega rail for cheeeap on the web. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted March 19, 2014 This is definitely a dead horse issue. i researched the shit out of both and had a lot of trouble deciding. i bought the EOtech simply out of ease. came across a good deal, good enough that if i don't like it a can get really close to what i paid. if i can find an aimpoint to play with i would be happy. decide what works best for ME. I have taking a lot of advice from Vlad and haven't been let down yet. if you paid more than 400 you paid too much since a new in box PRO (including mount and night vision compatibility) costs that much.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted March 19, 2014 if you paid more than 400 you paid too much since a new in box PRO (including mount and night vision compatibility) costs that much.. He probably got the exps2 for 450 that comes with a QD attachment, lower 1/3 cowitness and a free 3x magnifier. But unfortunately no nvg capability Those things I mentioned are not standard with a PRO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boejoula 0 Posted March 19, 2014 if you paid more than 400 you paid too much since a new in box PRO (including mount and night vision compatibility) costs that much.. Cut me some slack lol. i got the 450 deal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites