marty0330 0 Posted August 21, 2014 I'm new to the forum. I own a revolver (S&W 357 special) which I use for range shooting and home defense. I decided to keep it in my office (loaded) in a file cabinet drawer which is locked when I am out. I'm a dentist. Do I need to inform my employees (3 women)? Thanks... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted August 21, 2014 No, there is no obligation to inform your employees. It may be judicious to do so, but there is no obligation. You are making yourself responsible for your employees well-being. Make sure that you are proficient with that revolver. BTW - it is .357 Magnum or .38 Special, unless there is some new caliber of which I am unaware. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marty0330 0 Posted August 21, 2014 Thanks for your prompt reply, Bob. The model of the S&W is 686, but the barrel holds 7 rounds. I thought that made it "special." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted August 21, 2014 That makes it a "plus" or "+" And it's the cylinder that holds 7 rounds. If you have 7 rounds in the barrel, you have a big problem. I hope that you are taking this in the spirit intended - just kind of poking fun. However, on a more serious sidenote, your unfamiliarity with the nomenclature leads me to believe you may be as unfamiliar with the gun itself - I know that may be a stretch, but when it comes to using a defensive handgun, one can never be too familiar. The 686 is a fine firearm. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted August 21, 2014 Not an answer to your question but when I read your post, I immediately thought of this guy... http://izismile.com/2012/04/10/this_doctor_knows_how_to_recruit_the_right_5_pics.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted August 21, 2014 The 686 Plus is a great revolver. The "plus" indicates that the cylinder holds one more round then the standard 686. As you know you can shoot either 357 magnum loads or .38 Special. If you are planning on keeping the gun loaded, I would certainly keep the file cabinet locked at all times. See the Youth Handun Safety Act. Welcome to the forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marty0330 0 Posted August 21, 2014 Lalo, thanks for the link, but I prefer brunettes. Think I could get Salma Hayek and Monica Bellucci to chairside assist for me? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marty0330 0 Posted August 21, 2014 9X19-- If I keep the cabinet locked at all times, my access to the firearm would be significantly reduced. I am assuming that if no one knows it's here, and it's in a bottom drawer under papers so that it's not visible, but easily accessible, then it would be OK. Am I supposed to be concerned about its being stolen while I'm in the office? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted August 21, 2014 No... I am just saying that if you step out and forget to lock it, you are responsible if a minor gets into it. If you are concerned about quick access, get a fingerprint safe. Just my 2 cents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted August 21, 2014 http://www.gunvault.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marty0330 0 Posted August 21, 2014 I do not own--I rent the space. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302w 83 Posted August 21, 2014 Fingerprint safes are excellent for your situation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted August 21, 2014 Monica Bellucci Do you know how I know you are awesome? When I mention her as one of the hottest women in the world I usually get blank stares.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,635 Posted August 21, 2014 Fingerprint safes are excellent for your situation A fingerprint safe for a Dentist that is often wearing rubber gloves and has wet hands? Terrible idea. Yes Doc, you need a safe. There are plenty of quick access safes out there but avoid the fingerprint safes if at all possible for the reasons I mentioned above. Something like this wi serve you well: http://gunsafestore.com/v-line-compact-pistol-safe-279-s-blk.html No batteries, easy and fast access, and will fit in a desk drawer. Then follow Pizza on's advice and get some training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 44 Posted August 21, 2014 I do not own--I rent the space. Are you the owner of the practice ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted August 21, 2014 You do not need to inform your employees, however, when situations go bad that may not be the time to inform them either. What is your thinking around when you might need to deploy this firearm? Have you considered your means of response to an attack? Will your coworkers know what to do, will they react appropriately, will they be more frightened by the sight of you with a firearm? There are ways to prepare your people without tipping your hat, but it requires thinking ahead and training and discussing what-if situations in order that your and your employees responses can be as effective as possible. Most small offices do not conduct any type of safety drills, fire drills, etc. In this instance, our schools are much better prepared than we are. In the 20+ years I have been working, none of the companies I have worked with have ever conducted any type of drill. I have had CLIENTS who conduct drills due to the nature of their business, but never my employer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted August 21, 2014 A fingerprint safe for a Dentist that is often wearing rubber gloves and has wet hands? Terrible idea. Yes Doc, you need a safe. There are plenty of quick access safes out there but avoid the fingerprint safes if at all possible for the reasons I mentioned above. Something like this wi serve you well: http://gunsafestore.com/v-line-compact-pistol-safe-279-s-blk.html No batteries, easy and fast access, and will fit in a desk drawer. Then follow Pizza on's advice and get some training. High Exposure good point, on the gloves I did not think about that. I have Stack On safes that have a 4 digit keypad combination lock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted August 21, 2014 You should be carrying the gun. As discretely as possible. You should lock it in a safe whenever you leave. Fingerprint safe will be perfect for that as your hands will be clean when you leave and when you arrive. Nothing else will work. First of all, if a guy comes in brandishing a gun or a knife, do you think you will have the opportunity to go get your own gun? No. Second, what if somebody is just shifty or making you nervous. You going to go into your office and get your gun and walk back out with it in your hand? No. In your waistband? No. You are not going to get your gun at all. Because neither of those ideas make any sense. So >90% of the scenarios you might need a gun you won't have it unless you are wearing it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted August 21, 2014 Not an answer to your question but when I read your post, I immediately thought of this guy... http://izismile.com/2012/04/10/this_doctor_knows_how_to_recruit_the_right_5_pics.html They are good looking but does the doc have something against boobs? How can he find so many hot young girls and not one of them hits a B Cup? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marty0330 0 Posted August 21, 2014 mipafox--that's kind of funny. I can just picture myself treating patients wearing a gun on my hip. Doc Holliday... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted August 21, 2014 When I mention her as one of the hottest women in the world I usually get blank stares.... How sad to hear that. She is beautiful and hot! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted August 21, 2014 mipafox--that's kind of funny. I can just picture myself treating patients wearing a gun on my hip. Doc Holliday... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted August 21, 2014 Payment IS due when service is rendered, Pardner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheLugNutZ 21 Posted August 21, 2014 No one needs to know its on your hip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted August 21, 2014 Payment IS due when service is rendered, Pardner. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted August 21, 2014 No one needs to know its on your hip. Its a Smith 686. Depending on the barrel length, it may not be an option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marty0330 0 Posted August 21, 2014 Me and my assistant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9X19 125 Posted August 21, 2014 cnsmovie_tombstone_05.jpg Me and my assistant. With her as your assistant, I may have to become a patient. LOL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marty0330 0 Posted August 21, 2014 She's very gentle... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites