Yet another help with NJ gun law question!

[Gus 33]

Honestly guys, I think the odds of getting into trouble are a lot worse than some of you make it out to be.

 

If you get mixed up in a serious crime, no stone will be left unturned.  A really persistent prosecutor looking to make a name for themselves, will definitely take a real close look. They might find something, they might not. But, I don't buy the "mountain of unsearchable paperwork" theory.

 

Commit the wrong crime, piss off the wrong prosecutor, or look a certain way, and they will find a way to go through all that paperwork just to get you.

 

Do you guys feel that a free gun is worth that kind of scrutiny? Do you want to bet your freedom on it?

[Midwest 28]

Honestly guys, I think the odds of getting into trouble are a lot worse than some of you make it out to be.

 

If you get mixed up in a serious crime, no stone will be left unturned.  A really persistent prosecutor looking to make a name for themselves, will definitely take a real close look. They might find something, they might not. But, I don't buy the "mountain of unsearchable paperwork" theory.

 

Commit the wrong crime, piss off the wrong prosecutor, or look a certain way, and they will find a way to go through all that paperwork just to get you.

 

Do you guys feel that a free gun is worth that kind of scrutiny? Do you want to bet your freedom on it?

 

Very well put. And these are Federal Crimes we are talking about which can result up to 10 years in jail in Club Fed and a $10,000 fine.

 

The issue is NOT about  "Draconian NJ Gun Laws" verses "Free America Gun Laws".

The issue is NOT about how someone went to Cabela's in PA and picked up a black powder gun or a pellet gun.

The issue is not about the lack of a COE or the lack of an FID or the lack of a NJ 'permit to purchase'. (Although these are important if you live in NJ)

 

 

The issue here is not just one violation ,TWO violations of the 1968 Gun Control Act talked about in a public forum.  Those are Federal crimes...... in plain English that is some serious shit

 

 

 

"A friend of mine "Really! Not me as you may think, since I would have refused!"  drove to PA today to help a friend move his father to a nursing home. He moved the contents of his home to storage and rented a pod to move his father's large gun collection to California. During the process of the move, he gave a handgun and a rifle to my buddy, who is an NJ resident! My friend made it home with the two guns"

 

Lets replace the states in the above quotes

 

 

"A friend of mine "Really! Not me as you may think, since I would have refused!"  drove to Arizona today to help a friend move his father to a nursing home. He moved the contents of his home to storage and rented a pod to move his father's large gun collection to California. During the process of the move, he gave a handgun and a rifle to my buddy, who is an Utah  resident! My friend made it home (to Utah) with the two guns"

 

 

 

In both cases the outcome would be the same, two violations of the 1968 Gun Control Act. These are Federal Crimes.

 

 

Please I am not trying to come across as a Dick or a know it all. I'm just trying to bring up the point that two Federal Crimes were committed and openly talked about in a public forum. Going to another state and bringing back a firearm (not a black powder gun or a pellet gun) , but a firearm as defined by the 1968 Gun Control Act is a serious crime. (Black powder guns or a pellet guns are NOT considered firearms under the 1968 Gun Control Act).

 

The only "exemptions" would be for an inheritance.

If the person bought the rifle from a licensed dealer from another state.

The person had a C&R license and picked up a C&R firearm.

The person was a FFL.

The person had the firearm (s) shipped to a NJ FFL.

 

No matter what state a person lives in, even if it is a so called "free state". It is still illegal and a federal crime to buy or obtain a firearm privately from another state without a FFL. The best way to have handled the situation would be if the person had the firearms shipped to an FFL in NJ.  Again this IS a Federal issue. Obtaining firearms in interstate commerce without a FFL or through a FFL is a violation of the 68 GCA unless it is an inheritance.

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