Another "Is This NJ Legal?" Question - VMAC 9mm

[maintenanceguy 510]

I'm eying this gun http://www.classicfirearms.com/vmac-9mm-pistol

 

This gun has 3 strikes against it. 

 

Strike 1:  30 round magazine - but I can have that altered - problem solved.

 

Strike 2: threaded barrel - but I can have the barrel turned and the threads removed - problem solved.

 

Strike 3:  weight over 50 oz (5.5 lbs to be exact).  But I'm allowed "one evil feature" so this gun should be NJ legal.

 

However, this handgun is illegal if it's a "A semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm".  I don't know if it is a semi-automatic VERSION of a Mac 10 or if it's just made similar to the Mac 10.

 

The NJAC say an illegal assault firearm (handgun) is:

 

B. a semi-automatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least 2 of the following:

 

1. an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;
2. a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer;
3. a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;
4. manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and
5. a semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm; and,

 

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

It is a semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm - they even allude to it in their description. It also fires from an open bolt - a feature found on its F/A parent.

[JT Custom Guns 957]

NO!

[glockamole 0]

Get the nj compliant 5.56 pistol

[PK90 3,570]

The MPA Mini-9 is legal.

[The_Matrix 105]

The MPA Mini-9 is legal.

I've seen a few folks with this model.

[CageFighter 236]

The MPA Mini-9 is legal.

 

price?   i just put in for (6) permits!!!

[PK90 3,570]

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[n4p226r 105]

What makes the mini 9 legal?

[maintenanceguy 510]

What makes the mini 9 legal?

I had the same question.

[Oakridgefirearms 224]

It weighs less than 50 oz.

[aguilar64 9]

At 5.5 lbs I would say is over 50 oz. (5.5 x 16 oz)

 

 

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[maintenanceguy 510]

At 5.5 lbs I would say is over 50 oz. (5.5 x 16 oz)

 

 

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Yes, the VMAC 9mm is over 50 oz.,  But being over 50 oz is only one evil feature. (If I have the barrel threads removed).  It's only an assault handgun if it has 2 evil features.   

 

So I'm assuming the VMAC 9mm is illegal because it's "a semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm" .   But why isn't the MPA mini-9 a "a semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm" too?

[KpdPipes 388]

It is a semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm - they even allude to it in their description. It also fires from an open bolt - a feature found on its F/A parent.

 

No, No it does not.......BATFE ruled that ANYTHING that fires from an open Bolt is considered an MG, Semi or not,  except for a couple of Specific EARLY Model MAC semis, and a very short tun of Tec-9's that fired OB/Semi, which, like the G-Series FAL's each is registered by Serial number as Exempted.

[Oakridgefirearms 224]

At 5.5 lbs I would say is over 50 oz. (5.5 x 16 oz)

 

 

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The MPA Mini 9 top cocker weighs 45 oz and side cocker 48 oz.

[mipafox 438]

 

No, No it does not.......BATFE ruled that ANYTHING that fires from an open Bolt is considered an MG, Semi or not,  except for a couple of Specific EARLY Model MAC semis, and a very short tun of Tec-9's that fired OB/Semi, which, like the G-Series FAL's each is registered by Serial number as Exempted.

 

 

Beat me to it.

 

The last open bolt semi that is not considered an MG (or otherwise just banned) was manufactured in 1983.

 

However, the ones I am aware of are not registered under the NFA. That would include Tec-9s and M11s (no registration), I don't know anything about the FALs.

 

However, I have been doing this for a while, and I have never heard of any semi pistols or rifles being "registered" with the federal government. Could be wrong, but at this point it would be an interesting surprise to learn because I really doubt it.