Letter from VA removing a vet's 2A rights

[maintenanceguy 510]

I don't know this guy but he has posted a letter he received from the VA on his facebook page here:

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=693091057443100&set=a.411139392304936.97576.100002266371223&type=1&theater

 

Think twice about accepting the government benefits you are due for your service.

 

 

[maintenanceguy 510]

In case the Facebook page disappears, here's a capture of the letter with his personal details removed.

 

[magnawing 5]

I wish him luck if decides to appeal. I've been waiting over two years for an appeal decision on a claim for a physical injury...who knows how long they'll sit on an Obama/Holder sponsored decision like this.

 

 

This signature is AWESOME!!!

[Blacksmythe 71]

DAmn...So basically don't go for what is owed. Do not go to get help. That place gets better and better. I know a man who has been waiting six months for a decision on his ankle pin which they installed to be replaced because its now faulty and infected.

[GRIZ 3,369]

I've been dealing with the VA for nearly 45 years. They have gone from being difficult to deal with in 1970 to impossible at the present time. I've found over the past 10 years they will just about always deny your claim when you first apply. If you appeal you then you have to wait for a hearing then wait for the VA to act on the judge's decision. This process took me about 4 years. It shouldn't.

 

I currently have a claim in for a condition the VA recognizes as being associated with Agent Orange. This was diagnosed by my doctor and when I went for my C & P (compensation and pension) exam the VA doctor said there was nothing wrong with me. Two months later I was in the hospital for it and a couple of months after another VA doctor agreed with my doctor. I exhibited all the symptoms outlined in the regulations (you don't have to have all). They still denied it. I'm still appealing it. This is 3 1/2 years for what should be a rubber stamp OK.

 

A big part of the VA problem is they don't have enough trained claims examiners. They aren't hiring more. Shinseki should have been fired long ago. The fact he kept the job as long as he did is evidence of Obama's disdain for the military. Jury is still out on McDonald as he hasn't been on the job that long.

 

To me the veteran who's letter is posted seems to have brought this on himself. He provided evidence to the VA that his PTSD is so bad he cannot handle his own day to day affairs. He's not collecting 10 or 20%. Without seeing the evidence he provided the VA maybe he shouldn't allowed to own guns. Really can't say based only on the cover letter provided.

[mipafox 438]

 

To me the veteran who's letter is posted seems to have brought this on himself. He provided evidence to the VA that his PTSD is so bad he cannot handle his own day to day affairs. He's not collecting 10 or 20%. Without seeing the evidence he provided the VA maybe he shouldn't allowed to own guns. Really can't say based only on the cover letter provided.

 

 

Anyone who believes the federal government should have a say in who should be "allowed" to own guns shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

[GRIZ 3,369]

 

 

Anyone who believes the federal government should have a say in who should be "allowed" to own guns shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

So you support gun ownership by violent felons, the mentally incompetent, alcoholics, and drug addicts. Good for you but maybe you need to reassess who else shouldn't own guns.

[mipafox 438]

So you support gun ownership by violent felons, the mentally incompetent, alcoholics, and drug addicts. Good for you but maybe you need to reassess who else shouldn't own guns.

Pretty much just people that say the federal government should decide. Yup, those are the people.

[GRIZ 3,369]

Pretty much just people that say the federal government should decide. Yup, those are the people.

Good for you. Don't expect a lot of support though. Most people wouldn't agree we should be allowing people who can be dangerous to others or themselves to have guns. I would surmise you would also support letting convicts in prison have guns. They need protection from the COs and other prisoners.

[mipafox 438]

Good for you. Don't expect a lot of support though. Most people wouldn't agree we should be allowing people who can be dangerous to others or themselves to have guns. I would surmise you would also support letting convicts in prison have guns. They need protection from the COs and other prisoners.

Prisoners are not free. You can't detain the armed. I think that wisdom is pretty much prehistoric.

 

How long has the federal government determined who can and cannot own firearms?

 

I think I will get a hell of a lot more support than the number of people on this forum. I don't fear the average milktoast NJ voter that pulls the lever for a Dem because they saw that more gun control is needed. I fear you. The activist that supports the destruction of the Second Amendment. The Benedict Arnold at the worst moment. We just had a few of those recently. One was called Toomey. You might have heard of him. Let me guess - You supported his plan to have all transfers of firearms require federal permission in advance. Thought so.

 

Well, apparently I had more support than you did. So much for your theory.

[GRIZ 3,369]

 

 

You still have not reasonably supported your view. You make ridiculous assumptions on my beliefs.

 

You have nothing left and have to resort to name calling and personal attacks. You tend to do this often.

 

You say you fear me. Good for you. No need to unless you intend to do me harm.

[mipafox 438]

 

You still have not reasonably supported your view. You make ridiculous assumptions on my beliefs.

 

Your assumption that I want prisoners armed was less ridiculous?

 

By the way - which assumption about your beliefs was incorrect?

[GRIZ 3,369]

 

 

Your assumption that I want prisoners armed was less ridiculous?

By the way - which assumption about your beliefs was incorrect?

You want everyone, except me, to be able to possess firearms. To me and many others that idea is ridiculous. All of the mass shootings in this country were done by people who are mentally ill or evil. How many more of these would happen if they all were given free access to guns? Do I think all prohibited from gun ownership be denied? No. People like Martha Stewart I wouldn't worry about even though she is a convicted felon.

 

All of your assumptions regarding my beliefs were ridiculous and incorrect.

 

Who you need to fear are people who feel you have to agree with them 100% or you are wrong like Stalin, Hitler, Castro, Kim Jong-un, and groups like ISIS. If the Founding Fathers didn't comprimise for the good of all we would be singing God Save the Queen.

[Blacksmythe 71]

Sad fact about some of the claim examiners is that they skim over and misinterpret files.  

[fapipa 3]

Your assumption that I want prisoners armed was less ridiculous?

 

 

Not to veer this thread farther off topic, but this would not be entirely unprecedented. The revolver in this pic was apparently issued to "working convicts" in the late 19th century in TN.

[GRIZ 3,369]

It's not just missing facts it's ignoring them. A vet needs to meet the criteria laid out under the diagnostic code in Chapter 4 of Title 38 CFR. The way it's supposed to work is if you meet the criteria for a certain percentage that's what you get. Many times they will rate you at a lower percentage you are entitled to figuring lets throw the vet a bone and shut him up.I have won appeals merely by rehashing all the facts I gave them to an Administrative Law Judge. Nothing added from my original claim but you are just repeating it to someone outside the VA.

 

I've also experienced issues with VA doctors doing the Compensation and Pension exams (C&P). Some are outright hostile. If you need a cardiac catherization to properly diagnose the problem the VA will try to take the cheap way out and do an EKG. Not that it's going to find the problem but the VA can say we did something. Some VA doctors add their own requirements. This is illegal but they get away with it. When you go for a C&P exam you may be examined by a neurologist for a heart condition or a pulmonologist for an orthopedic condition. Go figure.

 

The VA Healthcare System is so overburdened and ineffective it should be abandoned and privatized. But we all know the VA system is what the current administration wants for all of us.

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