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No consent to search sticker/tag/magnet on your safe........

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If they're anywhere near your gun safe one would assume they have already obtained the legal right to search your house, no? If they are there illegally they can find a ton of heroin and seven machine guns and it would be inadmissible, no?

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Anthony said they'll have the ones Nappen is holding in that pic at Gunforhire soon. Can anyone who has their hands on it now scan or take a decent pic of it so I can re-create it in Illustrator? :nyam:

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This seems like a good idea on the surface and after reading some responses I dot think these are for me. While I certainly dont have anything to hide..........I dont have anything I want to advertise either. 

 

Almost seems like the open carry movement of luggage tags.

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If anyone else lives in your house thats the person who will be saying "why yes officer, my husband wouldnt mind if you go searching thru the house", or " my cheating boyfriend scares me, please take all the weapons you find and get rid of them", you will be the one on the front lawn with the other officer blocking your access to your house while the neighbors watch, give them a real show, forget the stickers, boobytrap the damn thing! (Just kidding kids, dont try this at home.)

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If anyone else lives in your house thats the person who will be saying "why yes officer, my husband wouldnt mind if you go searching thru the house", or " my cheating boyfriend scares me, please take all the weapons you find and get rid of them", you will be the one on the front lawn with the other officer blocking your access to your house while the neighbors watch,

 

Yeah I had questions about this kind of thing.  I need to write them up and send them in.

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You missed the intent of the tag.  The idea is that if you are in SOMEONE ELSE'S car and they give consent to search the car,  the tag is there to notify that the bag is NOT COVERED by permission to search given by the driver.

 

Under New Jersey law, contents of a vehicle are presumed to be owned by the driver of the car, I believe.  If they can search the car due to probable cause/reasonable articulable suspicion of the driver (or their permission) then they can attribute the contents to the driver's ownership (and search them).  Please correct if I have this wrong.

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there is a case going before the SCOTUS , Heien v. North Carolina that might help with MV stops if we win.   It might help out with a lot of search related confrontations.

 

"SCOTUS: Police can stop you for violating nonexistent laws they think are real"  http://theweek.com/article/index/273751/speedreads-scotus-police-can-stop-you-for-violating-nonexistent-laws-they-think-are-real

 

In a ruling released on Monday for Heien v. North Carolina, the Supreme Court decided with an 8-1 vote that police are justified in stopping citizens for actions they "reasonably" believe are illegal, even if the officers' understanding of the law is significantly or entirely mistaken.

 

The specific case under consideration concerned a traffic stop over a broken tail light, which led to discovery of drugs in the car. But since North Carolina only requires drivers to have a single "stop lamp," the driver arguably should never have been stopped at all.

 

In the lone dissenting opinion, Justice Sonia Sotomayor wrote, "One is left to wonder why an innocent citizen should be made to shoulder the burden of being seized whenever the law may be susceptible to an interpretative question." The full majority and dissenting opinions are available here.

 

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See full article for emeded reference links.

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