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922r and American made recievers

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I was looking at assembling a 74 from a Nodak spud reciever set. I'm not sure / any foreign parts will be on it but since an American made reciever I'd imagine there's no 922r and just the normal NJ issues to deal with?

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That's interedting. I only asked because I thought 922r only applied to imported firearms and the firearm is technically the reciever. I'm probably going to source as many domestic parts anyway. I like so,e of the red star arms products and the tapco furniture would be fine. I think the barrel may take some research.

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only for sale as well......

 

there are lots of misunderstandings with 922r

That's why I always ask. I may build an entirely US AK if possible. Let's see.

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I don’t know if this helps but this video was posted here on NJGF a while back but I can’t find the original NJGF link..  Glancing at the video again at about the 0:40 second mark he makes mention of the 922r parts and then grinds the bayonet lug so could be even be a a Jersey build.... Later in the video and I see what appears to be a US made Tapco Trigger & hammer and Tapco piston. I'm going to assume the mag is US made for three more US parts. Please post it if you do it, good luck

 

 

 

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922r regulates the parts and since the receiver is a counted part it doesn't matter where it's made. I believe for an AK build you are limited to 10 foreign counted parts in order to be 922r compliant.

The parts count is the same whether its an AK, SKS, FAL, or whatever you're building.

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The biggest misunderstanding is that 922r applies only to the manufacturer at the time of manufacture, and not to possession later on.

Can you explain this a bit more of it's not too much trouble?

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It shall be unlawful for any person to assemble from imported
parts any semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun which is identical to any
rifle or shotgun prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) of
this chapter as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable
to sporting purposes except that this subsection shall not apply to--
(1) the assembly of any such rifle or shotgun for sale or
distribution by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any
department or agency thereof or to any State or any department,
agency, or political subdivision thereof; or
(2) the assembly of any such rifle or shotgun for the purposes
of testing or experimentation authorized by the Attorney General.

 

The key word is "assemble", not possession of such a rifle. I don't believe that anyone has ever been charged with possession of a non-compliant rifle. Use your Google-Fu; there is plenty to read out there.

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The question I've always had about this  ... how do you know where random part 67b-A in this particular firearm was manufactured? Can anyone really prove that sear or follower was made in Uzbekistan or the US, regardless in which direction you want to have the argument?

good point and has anyone ever been busted for this?

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http://thegunwiki.com/Gunwiki/BuildAkVerifyCompliance

Best tool for when your building an AK.
Anything that is checked means it is a foreign piece.
For each piece you have that is US made, uncheck it. It will keep a tally for you below and tell you if it is illegal or not.

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The violator under 922r would be whoever built the gun not the possessor. If I built a gun illegal under 922r and sold it to you, the rap is on me not you.

 

AFAIK no one has ever been prosecuted under 922r.

also, as I understand it, for manufacturer and not individual owner

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I'm going to try and assemble it from all domestic parts if possible. It that works out maybe I'll get some imported used furniture. 922r really looks like one of the dumbest laws ever, but it is law and I'd rather not be the first person prosecuted under.

 

The construction on my house in Florida should be done by spring. I'll build it down there so I don't have to do more stupid stuff. I want as many evil features as possible, but I'll keep it in Florida where they don't care about those things.

 

I'm looking at different recievers now.

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922r is more of a scare tactic for manufacturers, no one is really going to know that you have foreign made parts. They would typically only ever have a reason to have your gun long enough to look at it if you did something wrong. And frankly that something wrong is probably more on their mind than taking the time to look at each individual piece of your weapon and wasting man power. 

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