Self007 0 Posted November 14, 2014 Can A constable carry a firearm per Law Enforcement Officers Safety act. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,569 Posted November 14, 2014 Maybe your answer is in the attached FAQ. hr218_s1132_hr4310.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted November 14, 2014 Maybe your answer is in the attached FAQ. hr218_s1132_hr4310.pdf Not that it matters, since it would seem LEOSA would be in effect for you, but I was simply curious... Is there such a LE position as "constable" in the State of NJ? Or are you a PA "constable?" I've heard of them in PA. Thx. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wangsly 47 Posted November 14, 2014 Only constables I've seen in NJ have had batons and OC, never seen one with a firearm. Not sure if they can carry a firearm if qualified, just my observation. I think NYC constables have firearms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Self007 0 Posted November 14, 2014 Appreciate it PK90 that's what im trying to use but it seems like prosecuters trying to give me a hard time in nj. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted November 14, 2014 http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/08/whats_in_a_name_constables_are.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Self007 0 Posted November 14, 2014 In NJ a Constable has statuatory powers of arrest police officers actually derive there powers from the constable along with probation officers and county investigators. In fact a Constable can charge any jailer for not taking in his prisoner. They are county officers which are only a step down from the sheriff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted November 14, 2014 IF you are a PA Constable, then Yes you can carry in NJ. But you better look into it yourself. Other states, it will depend on your statutory authority and training and how it jives with LEOSA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted November 14, 2014 http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/08/whats_in_a_name_constables_are.html Interesting... Thanks. I didn't realize NJ had such a position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Self007 0 Posted November 14, 2014 yes the position is actually classified under civil service as an unclassified position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted November 14, 2014 We had Specials in our town first. Constables were like crossing guards way back when. Then that classification was taken from the crossing guards and they were just crossing guards. Later Specials and Constables were added back in and were considered Officers of the Court and could also be used in various ways. I started out as a Special. I carried, wore a uniform, went on patrols, worked survelliance and more. If qualified, they could carry. They worked at the county level in the courts as well as locally. Trivia: It is believed a Constable, which had their position long ago even in England. (You often saw Constables in the old US and English films looking like Bobbies like in the Charlie Chaplin movies)... The trivia is, today we call Police Officers a slang known as COPS... COPS, was originally believed to be short for, "Constables On Patrol".... Hence, COPS.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirk2022 43 Posted November 14, 2014 Interesting thread. A Constable in NJ is A appointed job. The appointment comes from A Councilman in the town you live in. No votes no nominations, You can become A constable just by being friends with someone in City Council. There is no training required. From the conversion I had with A relative that is A Captain with NJSP. A Constable must pass all backgrounds checks for A CCW and have A CCW to carry. The right to arrest is the same as any citizen has in NJ, It is a Citizens arrest. I would sincerely hope that if you have A legal situation with carrying without A permit that you have retained good legal council. And that you are not looking for legal opinions on these threads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blacksmythe 71 Posted November 14, 2014 I have seen one that drives around Newark, seemed suspicious to me... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted November 15, 2014 how it jives with LEOSA. The word is JIBE "Jibe" and "jive" have been used interchangeably in the U.S. to indicate the concept "to agree or accord." While one recent dictionary accepts this usage of "jive," most sources consider it to be in error. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,884 Posted November 15, 2014 Trivia: It is believed a Constable, which had their position long ago even in England. You often saw Constables in the old US and English films looking like Bobbies like in the Charlie Chaplin movies... The trivia is, today we call Police Officers a slang known as COPS... COPS, was originally believed to be short for, "Constables On Patrol".... Hence, COPS.... British Police officers are still Constables. Each Police force is called the county Constabulary. e.g. Suffolk Constabulary, Gloucestershire Constabulary, etc and many of them still wear the traditional helmet shaped like a tit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted November 15, 2014 British Police officers are still Constables. Each Police force is called the county Constabulary. e.g. Suffolk Constabulary, Gloucestershire Constabulary, etc and many of them still wear the traditional helmet shaped like a tit. The one with which I'm most familiar is the "Royal Ulster Constabulary" (R.U.C).... Fear not... me/mine are not Sinn Féin, IRA or anywhere near it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted November 15, 2014 The word is JIBEThose are strong words considering your own reference for proof is undecided. Are your drug addicts Jonesing or joesing? Knock yo self a pro, slick. I think we can go with Jive. https://www.youtube.com/embed/RrZlWw8Di10 https://www.youtube.com/embed/RrZlWw8Di10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuktuk 16 Posted November 15, 2014 that's so weird >>> I've never heard of "constables" in NJ. gonna read up some more on it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirk2022 43 Posted November 15, 2014 Actually there are very few Cities, Counties that utilize Constables, In NJ anymore. Actually with proper followup and searching you will find that what used to be considered A Constable,(Many years ago) Are what is commonly known now as Officers of the court. With that position being held 99% of the time by retired LEO's. Sheriffs Officers are tasked in most of NJ with doing evictions, Handing Supeonas etc. Long ago thats what Constables did. Now in PA for instance there are still Constables and they do have A large amount of Authority, and also can carry. As they have been thru approiate training. Just think. If there still were constables in NJ, Then there would be A large amount of folks allowed to carry. Thats if they still existed like years ago. And we all are aware of the chances that will happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelrc51 0 Posted November 20, 2014 I have worked with a lot of them doing evictions and such and I haven't seen one carry. Not to say that couldn't go through the necessary steps but just because you are constable doesn't mean you can carry. Any that I worked with had police as backup if necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites