ManWithBeard 2 Posted November 19, 2014 http://m.wsj.com/articles/BL-LB-49846 Article brings to attention a recent court filing by the Brady Campaign and Million Mom March to Greg the state to enforce the law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wink-_-wink 1 Posted November 19, 2014 Good article. But it really bothers me. ok so first off we have PRE legislated gun laws on the books.... thats nuts. But anyway this system that they talk about (http://www.armatix.de/Smart-System.778.0.html?&L=1) is insane. Ok so basically you have the gun, and the watch, if the watch (worn on shooting hand) is not on, the fun is "deactivated". the gun is .22 and 10 round mag with an electronic magazine disconnect. The watch is RFID that you have to enter a pin code to arm the weapon if I understand that correctly, let me know how that works if you have to use it in a real life situation! it displays the charge level for the watch AND GUN! hope your batteries dont die for a real world situation... Oh AND it has a target response system in it......so if you are not aiming this at the target at the range, it will deactivate... I am guessing with RFID that SOMEONE , SOMEWHERE will be able to remotely. And as far as NO ONE being able to use the gun without the watch, only amatter of time before someone hacks that too.... All in all.... DUMB! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bully 749 Posted November 19, 2014 And then there's this... http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/11/10/researchers-propose-remotely-disabled-smart-guns/ This is why I believe many in the gubbmint want smart guns to be the only guns sold. Blah! on them. C Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted November 19, 2014 let them equip ALL branches of le with nothing but smart guns first. i'd say a good 10 year trial. then do studies on the reliability of them, and whether or not they were truly effective in preventing any form of crime that may happen by someone acquiring those tools illegally. then, and ONLY then should they even consider trying to force these illegally on the general public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted November 19, 2014 Just a quick question - and this law stops the bad guys from getting the illegal dumb guns they already use HOW? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jackandjill 683 Posted November 19, 2014 Just a quick question - and this law stops the bad guys from getting the illegal dumb guns they already use HOW? Because the career criminal who drops people for living is scared of Prosecutor adding dumb gun possession charges </sarcasm> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,256 Posted November 19, 2014 But all their press releases when they tried to get them in a shop claimed they weren't trying to do this very thing. They couldn't have been lying could they? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,766 Posted January 30, 2015 She's at it again, this time in Seattle... " “Nation’s first” smart gun symposium talks safety, risks, and delays" http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/nations-first-smart-gun-symposium-talks-safety-risks-and-delays/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted January 30, 2015 the sheriff says it all.........it's not ready for prime time. if it's not good enough for them, then it's not good enough for the rest of us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted January 30, 2015 the sheriff says it all.........it's not ready for prime time. if it's not good enough for them, then it's not good enough for the rest of us. I was thinking the same thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted January 30, 2015 She's at it again, this time in Seattle... " “Nation’s first” smart gun symposium talks safety, risks, and delays" http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/01/nations-first-smart-gun-symposium-talks-safety-risks-and-delays/ Ars asked the representatives from smart gun companies about in-the-field reliability—about moisture, blood, gloves, and other factors that need to be tested to ensure that a smart gun might not lock its owner out in a dire moment. Boinus didn't answer whether his company had conducted such tests yet, instead stating, "it's a money issue. Where are we going to have the money for testing?" Sentinl founder Omer Kiyani went further, saying his fingerprint-sensing technology's "target audience... is not typically in the mud and all that" and that "this is a safety device for home storage." What target audience is that? People that only need to shoot their firearms in the home? Keep in mind, they are trying to make this mandatory for everyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondd817 823 Posted January 30, 2015 I think all the politicians security details should be the first to employ these guns. You know, to set a good example. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,766 Posted January 30, 2015 I can't get the fingerprint sensor at my son's daycare facility to work properly. How am I supposed to put my life in the hands of unreliable technology? We should put "smart technology" on fire extinguishers too just in case there's an accidental discharge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,417 Posted January 30, 2015 If Apple's touchID is any indication, I will never have one on my firearms Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted January 31, 2015 If Apple's touchID is any indication, I will never have one on my firearms While I don't want to see it and think it a bad idea, the touchID on my iPhone works perfectly every time. I am very impressed with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted January 31, 2015 While I don't want to see it and think it a bad idea, the touchID on my iPhone works perfectly every time. I am very impressed with it. You got lucky, One I tried worked ~50% of the time on the first effort. We use finger print readers to get into my office. Humidity and skin moisture have A LOT to do with if the optical scanners work. Just to get my finger to scan at all I had to apply moisturizer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seamusSU 0 Posted January 31, 2015 And then there's this... http://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/11/10/researchers-propose-remotely-disabled-smart-guns/ This is why I believe many in the gubbmint want smart guns to be the only guns sold. Blah! on them. C I heard an interview a few months back with the president of Tracking Point (If I remember correctly) that they are actively working on the remote disabling technology with the goal of patenting it and preventing anyone from actually developing it. Patent trolling for the greater good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brucin 918 Posted February 1, 2015 You got lucky, One I tried worked ~50% of the time on the first effort. We use finger print readers to get into my office. Humidity and skin moisture have A LOT to do with if the optical scanners work. Just to get my finger to scan at all I had to apply moisturizer. When I went to Morpho track to get my finger prints done I had to apply lotion three times to get my prints read. I also had difficulties getting my prints done in NY for my permit there. I have a skin condition that makes my skin dry and leathery. On the plus side I learned a bio-metric safe would not be for me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 2, 2015 I heard an interview a few months back with the president of Tracking Point (If I remember correctly) that they are actively working on the remote disabling technology with the goal of patenting it and preventing anyone from actually developing it. Patent trolling for the greater good. Patents don't last forever, and there are usually workarounds for technology patents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted February 2, 2015 yea....change one thing, and they've got what they want...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites