mp123 0 Posted December 8, 2014 who works for whom? sad state of affairs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 44 Posted December 8, 2014 The mental health check form (SP-066) is supposed to be signed in the presence of the investigating officer. But it would be interesting to try this and just have your signature notarized on the SP-066. Send it directly to the firearms officer. Adios, Pizza Bob That is what my department says as well. I have to sign in front of the officer . My department is good though. I call , he calls back and gives me a time for that week. I give him papers , he gives me permits 3 weeks later. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,916 Posted December 8, 2014 In my town the only thing they have asked me to sign in front of them was my FPID card when they put my finger print on it. The detective that used to do them knew me by sight after that and never checked ID. For applications and permits since then they have not asked me to sign. The dispatcher doesn't even ask for ID when I pick up permits. I have not met the woman who took over the task from the detective earlier this year but got permits in 30 days anyway. Sent from my SCH-I800 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy 44 Posted December 8, 2014 There is absolutely no consistency in NJ for the process. If you call the State Police 5 times and ask the same question , you stand to get 5 different interpretations of the law and/or P2P process . Odds are you still won't have the correct answer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robinzon 0 Posted June 15, 2015 Apparently the process in Fair Lawn has been changed, you print the forms online then bring them to the Records department... that's it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuktuk 16 Posted June 16, 2015 Apparently the process in Fair Lawn has been changed, you print the forms online then bring them to the Records department... that's it. Niiiice. Link pls ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeL 3 Posted July 30, 2015 Apparently the process in Fair Lawn has been changed, you print the forms online then bring them to the Records department... that's it. No more trying to set an impossible appointment with the Detective who's never in his office???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmpilot 0 Posted October 25, 2015 Did anyone try this new process reported by @robinzon, and can provide more details? Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted October 25, 2015 Here in Washington (Warren County) we drop off to the secretary and pick them up from her 2-3 weeks later...and she dates & signs extensions (under authority from the chief) while you wait, when/if you need them This signature is AWESOME!!! Same thing with my former town of Independence Twp. 2-3 weeks for the initial FID & P2Ps. Subsequent P2Ps were exactly 16 calendar days for each set. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Underdog 1,593 Posted October 25, 2015 When you live in a liberal and progressive town with a high liberal Jewish population in a largely progressive, statist county in an unAmerican, unconstitutional state, what do you expect? Document everything and get help. Better yet, move to somewhere that values personal freedoms and the liberty that is cultivated. Call the detective and tell him you have a tip for him. Tell the chief you would like to make a donation to his department and see if he can arrange a meeting. When either one meets with you on something that might interests that person, then discuss your dilemna. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted October 25, 2015 That's BS....Ask for an appointment with the cheif Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted October 26, 2015 That's BS....Ask for an appointment with the cheif Oh, nevermind, I read that wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted October 26, 2015 Oh, nevermind, I read that wrong. LMFAO Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmpilot 0 Posted November 28, 2015 Here's a quick update about the state of affairs in Fair Lawn. It is much better than past experience of forum members on this thread. It took them 12 days (7 business days!!!) to process my application (from the day I submitted it, to the day they called to tell me to say it is ready to be picked up). Fingerprinting wasn't horrible either, I was able to schedule one (in Paramus) pretty quickly (couple of days). Overall the entire process (fingerprinting and Fair Lawn PD) took me less than 3 weeks. Go straight to Fair Lawn's Police Records (on the first floor, I forgot the room number) to see Michelle. She will give you the paperwork. Then schedule the fingerprinting, hand/email the forms to your references and have them fill, sign and return/email it back to you. Once you completed fingerprinting copy/print it all and bring it back to Michelle. I hope this information will help future applicants in Fair Lawn. Here is the first page from the packet I got. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted November 28, 2015 Giving you reference forms is adding content to the process and is illegal. It is incumbent upon the PD to contact your references, whether that is done telephonically, electronically or via the USPS, it is their job as part of the investigative process. My PD used to do the same thing until they received the ANJRPC's Strikeforce letter. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
palmpilot 0 Posted November 28, 2015 I think they called my references (phone) but I'm not sure. Giving you reference forms is adding content to the process and is illegal. It is incumbent upon the PD to contact your references, whether that is done telephonically, electronically or via the USPS, it is their job as part of the investigative process. My PD used to do the same thing until they received the ANJRPC's Strikeforce letter. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted November 28, 2015 Giving you reference forms is adding content to the process and is illegal. It is incumbent upon the PD to contact your references, whether that is done telephonically, electronically or via the USPS, it is their job as part of the investigative process. My PD used to do the same thing until they received the ANJRPC's Strikeforce letter. Adios, Pizza Bob Giving the forms to the applicant would speed the process. Does one cut off his nose to spite his face? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted November 28, 2015 Giving the forms to the applicant would speed the process. Does one cut off his nose to spite his face? Agreed. They're just giving you the responsibility of getting the forms to the references rather than them doing it. Rather trusting of them, actually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,137 Posted November 28, 2015 I too actually like the idea of controlling the reference process. No more getting lost on a desk, lost in the mail or absent minded friends. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackDaWack 2,895 Posted November 28, 2015 I too actually like the idea of controlling the reference process. No more getting lost on a desk, lost in the mail or absent minded friends. Depends on the actually process. Sometimes they mandate the forms are notarized and other B.S. But i agree, if it makes the process all around quicker and easier why would we complain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted November 28, 2015 Giving you reference forms is adding content to the process and is illegal. It is incumbent upon the PD to contact your references, whether that is done telephonically, electronically or via the USPS, it is their job as part of the investigative process. My PD used to do the same thing until they received the ANJRPC's Strikeforce letter. Adios, Pizza Bob +1 totally unacceptable. It's on the PD to make this happen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted November 30, 2015 Giving the forms to the applicant would speed the process. Does one cut off his nose to spite his face? You can't have your cake and eat it too. If we expect the PD's to follow the letter of the law, then it is incumbent on us to do likewise. We can't just pick and choose those portions of the law we agree with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted November 30, 2015 You can't have your cake and eat it too. If we expect the PD's to follow the letter of the law, then it is incumbent on us to do likewise. We can't just pick and choose those portions of the law we agree with. I like cake, and I like to eat. I say yes, we can do both. The law needs to be changed. I do not support that portion of the law. In fact, I do not support any portion of the FPID process. How ridiculous is that, when NICS does the same thing in minutes. Yes, we can pick which portions of the law we agree with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted November 30, 2015 I like cake, and I like to eat. I say yes, we can do both. The law needs to be changed. I do not support that portion of the law. In fact, I do not support any portion of the FPID process. How ridiculous is that, when NICS does the same thing in minutes. Yes, we can pick which portions of the law we agree with. That's a whole other can of worms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites