Lalo 13 Posted November 25, 2014 Friend of mine who is a PA resident owns a rifle I'd like to purchase. Can I meet him at a PA FFL and have them do the transfer to me inside PA or Does that transfer need to happen inside NJ by a NJ FFL? I'd like to avoid the cost of having to ship the rifle to NJ. I understand in PA, private sales don't need to go through an FFL. Being that I'm a NJ resident, I can't just use a COE and DL correct? How do NJ people purchase guns at PA gun shows? What are my legal options? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted November 25, 2014 A long gun can be transferred by an FFL in any state. You are fine going to PA and having a PA FFL do the transfer. Adios, Pizza Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted November 26, 2014 ^as long as the rifle is NJ legal (compliant) When buying at gun shows we use FFL's to do the transfers and they have been framilar with NJ laws and usually have COES on hand. Federal law requires you to use a ffl for sales between residents of different states. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted November 26, 2014 2. Long gun purchases by ....A. NJ resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a FPID, COE with Photo ID suggested ........(3) Out-of-state dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ........(4) Out-of-state resident = must be transferred through ............a. NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID or ............b. Out-of-state dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ....B. Non-resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ........(2) NJ resident = must be transferred through ............a. NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID or ............b. Out-of-state dealer = consult buyer's home state laws Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot 358 Posted November 26, 2014 Some PA FFL's (e.g. Sarco) sell long guns regularly to NJ residents so they are very familiar with checking the FID and filling out the COE. The process is actually smoother because PICS is much quicker and only $5 versus NICS. Preferably, I would think you want find an FFL who is familiar with the NJ process. Search the GB FFL Network (http://www.gunbroker.com/FFL/SearchForFFL.aspx?st=State&sv=PA) and call around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted November 26, 2014 Some PA FFL's (e.g. Sarco) sell long guns regularly to NJ residents so they are very familiar with checking the FID and filling out the COE. The process is actually smoother because PICS is much quicker and only $5 versus NICS. This is exactly why I wasn't against doing the transfer in PA instead of NJ. PICS is faster and cheaper than NICS. Just needed to find an FFL that was familiar with the process. I was going to try Sarco or Heritage Guild in Easton. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted November 26, 2014 Going to try Sarco first. BTW, talking about a Henry Lever Action in .22 so perfectly NJ legal... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot 358 Posted November 26, 2014 From what I understand, Sarco and HGE may be on the high side for transfer fees. Never hurts to shop around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted November 26, 2014 I was gonna say, I'd find the cheapest gun shop to transfer at. Bring some COE's just in case but most small gun shops everywhere but NJ charge $15-20 for a transfer fee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted November 26, 2014 As long as the gun is NJ compliant, bring a set of NJSP forms with you (most PA dealers have them, some don't) and have it logged into the PA dealers books and logged out to you (transfered). Drive it home and enjoy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted November 26, 2014 I was gonna say, I'd find the cheapest gun shop to transfer at. Bring some COE's just in case but most small gun shops everywhere but NJ charge $15-20 for a transfer fee. $15-$20? South Jersey it runs $40-$100 (yes, one dealer charges $100 for a new, not used gun), Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted November 26, 2014 I was gonna say, I'd find the cheapest gun shop to transfer at. Bring some COE's just in case but most small gun shops everywhere but NJ charge $15-20 for a transfer fee. I was thinking of using this guy. Other small shops work by appointment only hours on Sat. Anyone ever use this place? Brian Ahearn Easton Firearms Refinsihing 915 Sassafrass St Easton, PA 18042 Email: Click here to email me Phone: 610-252-5334 Fax: 610-252-8821 Cell Phone: 610-252-5334 Hours: 8:00 am - 6:00 pm Mon - Fri; 8:00 am - 3:00 pm Sat Long Gun Fee: $23.00 Hand Gun Fee: $23.00 NICS Fee: $2.00 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted November 26, 2014 hes does good workfrom what i heard never used for transfer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boo 6 Posted November 26, 2014 As long as the gun is NJ compliant, bring a set of NJSP forms with you (most PA dealers have them, some don't) and have it logged into the PA dealers books and logged out to you (transfered). Drive it home and enjoy. I understand it needs to be compliant to be brought into NJ, but it doesn't need to be compliant just for an NJ resident to receive the gun, does it? e.g. gun will be kept in PA or compliance work will be done in PA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted November 26, 2014 It does not need to be compliant until you cross the border into NJ. However, some dealers may not transfer to you because of that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted November 26, 2014 It does not need to be compliant until you cross the border into NJ. However, some dealers may not transfer to you because of that. Correct, this is why I can buy a M1 carbine over the bridge but as soon as I enter NJ I'm breaking the law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carcano 14 Posted November 26, 2014 I understand it needs to be compliant to be brought into NJ, but it doesn't need to be compliant just for an NJ resident to receive the gun, does it? e.g. gun will be kept in PA or compliance work will be done in PA PK90 pointed out that yes, it could be bought non-nj compliant if the dealer is willing to transfer it (some require it be NJ compliant, since you are showing them a NJ drivers license and firearms card). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted November 27, 2014 Thanks for all the help guys. Brian chimed in on my post in the PA forums and will try to do the transfer with him. If I can get the transfer done for under $40, I'll be good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted November 28, 2014 Thanks for all the help guys. Brian chimed in on my post in the PA forums and will try to do the transfer with him. If I can get the transfer done for under $40, I'll be good. I won't pay more than $20. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites