Opinion wanted

[DeerSlayer 241]

forget the mossberg, my brother has one and hates it compared to my 15-22

Took your advice and picked up an M&P 15-22 today. Can't wait to try it out. Any particular ammo better than others you've found?

[Shawnmoore81 623]

Copper

[DeerSlayer 241]

Copper

I usually only buy jacketed. I hate lead fouling.

[Scrap 4]

The 15-22 manual actually lists their manufacture recommended ammos and the ones they specifically do not want used in the 15-22 (For example, they like Federal Champion and American Eagle, and CCI SV + Mini Mags, and discount the use of Remington Golden Bullets & Thunderbolts) ... when I bought mine in 2010, they recommended the use of CCI Stingers.  When they came out with the Performance Center model, they added a passage saying that you could not use the CCI Stingers in the PC Models due to the fact it contains a match chamber, and Stingers have a greater Over All Length which can lead to kabooms.

 

In fact the day after Thanksgiving, I was shooting with my old man on our 30 acres of Florida woodland, and had shot about 150-200 rounds of mixed Federal Bulk and CCI Mini Mags, when I decided to shoot a magazine full of Stingers I keep for emergency purposes or SHTF/PP/HD if necessary.  The third round kaboomed my gun and I had to send it back to S&W, who took good care of me.

 

They sent it back with a newer edition of the owners manual, with the part about not using CCI Stingers in a PC model 15-22 highlighted in yellow highlighter... I called them and asked - What is the deal here?  I don't have a PC model, and you used to recommend them in the gun?  The guy told me, there have been way more than just a few 15-22s that kaboomed with CCI Stingers, especally the way it happened to me - gun gets gunked from a bit of shooting and having fun.  That gunk on the chamber and breech face / bolt face causes a round to not chamber and seat fully into the chamber, and then you get a detonation Out of Battery, kaboom.

 

 

So in short, Federal and CCI ammos are highly highly recommended ,with the exception of Stingers.

 

Congrats btw.

[DeerSlayer 241]

The 15-22 manual actually lists their manufacture recommended ammos and the ones they specifically do not want used in the 15-22 (For example, they like Federal Champion and American Eagle, and CCI SV + Mini Mags, and discount the use of Remington Golden Bullets & Thunderbolts) ... when I bought mine in 2010, they recommended the use of CCI Stingers. When they came out with the Performance Center model, they added a passage saying that you could not use the CCI Stingers in the PC Models due to the fact it contains a match chamber, and Stingers have a greater Over All Length which can lead to kabooms.

 

In fact the day after Thanksgiving, I was shooting with my old man on our 30 acres of Florida woodland, and had shot about 150-200 rounds of mixed Federal Bulk and CCI Mini Mags, when I decided to shoot a magazine full of Stingers I keep for emergency purposes or SHTF/PP/HD if necessary. The third round kaboomed my gun and I had to send it back to S&W, who took good care of me.

 

They sent it back with a newer edition of the owners manual, with the part about not using CCI Stingers in a PC model 15-22 highlighted in yellow highlighter... I called them and asked - What is the deal here? I don't have a PC model, and you used to recommend them in the gun? The guy told me, there have been way more than just a few 15-22s that kaboomed with CCI Stingers, especally the way it happened to me - gun gets gunked from a bit of shooting and having fun. That gunk on the chamber and breech face / bolt face causes a round to not chamber and seat fully into the chamber, and then you get a detonation Out of Battery, kaboom.

 

 

So in short, Federal and CCI ammos are highly highly recommended ,with the exception of Stingers.

 

Congrats btw.

Thanks, I appreciate the first hand knowledge. I actually traded someone for it and didn't get the original manual with the gun. It looks very lightly used and is really clean. Does S&W have their manuals on their website in PDF format? It's one of those "I think I know everything about AR's" probably because I have built a few myself. But now I want to read the book. Again thanks for the heads up, glad I asked, because I have a few boxes of stingers and a bunch of Remington bulk packs. I've also got some CCI, Federal, and winchester bricks in the ammo cache.

[Shawnmoore81 623]

Didn't know that about the stingers

[Scrap 4]

Hey no problems I am glad to help.

 

 

Ok as far as the manuals , I believe S&W does have them online, and I know for a fact Buds Gun Shop does.  In fact, when my 15-22 kaboomed ( -- and I want to make this clear, I LOVE my 15-22.  it's a ~$1650 gun at this point with all the accessories and optic added, so I take it more seriously than most.  But the fact is, it kaboomed and needed to be repaired at the factory, which S&W did promptly and for free gratis lol --.)  Buds Gun Shop has the original manual which actually recommends the CCI Stingers.  This is why I felt comfortable shooting them and of course keeping a magazine full dedicated to emergencies and just in case / SHTF use.  

 

https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/prod_mans/00033-0000061690-002.pdf

 

Now the manual has been updated and on S&W's page :

 

http://www.smith-wesson.com/wcsstore/SmWesson2/upload/other/S&W_M&P_1522_Rifle_Manual_09-01-2013.pdf

 

NOTE That it now has removed the CCI Stingers from the recommended list, and specifically mentions it being banned from use in the PC Model, but it doesn't mention their use in the regular 15-22 models .  (It explains the match chamber issue in the PC model).

 

I still won't use them in my 15-22 anymore unless we were in SHTF type of situation.  

[DeerSlayer 241]

Thanks again Scrap! Very helpful.

[oneshot 45]

Sig 522 great  gun.. Mine eats everything and its easy to field strip and clean . Just have to find one NJ compliant.Or Modify one thats not

[ccrides350 1]

My 15-22 is awesome! It eats everything and feels on point. That is my go to fun gun that never fails. I got it as a birthday gift the first year it was out, my girlfriend was worried I wasn’t going to like it…..lol it one of the favorite in the safe. If you are looking for a AR 22 type rifle, get the Smith!