Newtonian 453 Posted April 10, 2015 There's the proof! If this recall effort fails, he will do everything in his power to make the limit 10 rounds! He must be stopped now!!!! Ten rounds? NY has a 7-round limit, which is where we're headed. This is so goddamn stupid. It's time to pull the plug on this out-of-touch organization. "He must be stopped!!" indeed. Go stop him, Buckey. Go ahead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M1152 713 Posted April 10, 2015 Iron workers are a different breed too. Takes a lot of balls for that job. Sweeny had been playing this Former Iron Worker thing for his entire career. How long did he actually work the steel, does anyone know? I know he was the Business Agent but I just can’t visualize Sweeny and a spud wrench connecting I-beams in midair. Awesome picture. If you have Netflix dial up "Men at Lunch" they did a film about it. Here's the Netflix description. Inspired by the iconic 1932 photo of 11 unnamed workers eating lunch atop a steel girder, filmmaker Seán Ó Cualáin sets out to learn their identities Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted April 10, 2015 When I rip into boiler wall insulation I still find old beer cans in there from back then. We find em in other spots too. We kinda make a game of it. We get it back to the guy that left it there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,134 Posted April 10, 2015 he did well considering his highest education, via Wikipedia, is a high school GED. dont know where he was during his early adult life thru his late 30's before politics in 1997. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted April 10, 2015 If I had to pick someone to cozy up to from the inevitable crop of Democrats who will rule us henceforth, it would not be Weinberg or some of those other fossilized whiney broads or emasculated boy-men in the legislature. Because of his background and the area he represents, it would be Sweeney. As I've posted several times before you don't win by banging your shoe on the podium or by ignoring reality. Like it or not Sweeney is our reality. Whether he's elected governor or remains in the NJ Senate, recalling him accomplishes nothing but to stir up a hornet's nest. However long he remains in whatever office will be hell for NJ gun owners. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,848 Posted April 10, 2015 And now it's a poll: http://www.nj.com/gloucester-county/index.ssf/2015/04/recall_sen_sweeney_would_you_sign_a_nj_gun_rights.html#incart_river I think now they're trolling for page clicks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted April 10, 2015 Get in there and vote. Whether it may or may not help, can't hurt. Let's make him sweat! So far we are ahead. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted April 11, 2015 I know Rebecca Forand very well. Very liberal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted April 11, 2015 WRONG WRONG WRONG. Haha I get adamant some times. Nothing personal. Those individuals do not generally vote. They're too drunk or high or busy cashing their checks to go to the polls. "Wha? yessaday uh 'lection?" I have demonstrated over and over, mathematically to the seventh decimal place, philosophically to the point of proving Beelzebub exists and lives in my basement, and more logically than any analysis of Fermat's theorem, how we could overwhelm them. But you guys go to these damn meetings about secret strategies that nobody has every before considered. You give money to organizations that validate instead of challenging justifiable need, you support one-off solutions like jury nullification and getting Mr. Almeida a handgun carry permit. Mark my words. We have until November, 2016. Nineteen f-ing months. After that it's totally, completely over. New York City gun laws for NJ. The bills will come quickly, one after the other, and all will be signed. 50 caliber bans, mag restrictions that make all of us felons, ammo purchase restrictions. Gun shops will drop like flies. You don't like OGAM? You'll freaking love OGAY or OGAL. Provided it's a single-shot .22lr training rifle with an automatic bolt lock after 3 rounds are fired. Barring legislative action you can kiss your gun rights in this state, as well as your asses, farewell. We'll disagree, between those folks and public workers the democrats rule the state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted April 11, 2015 We'll disagree, between those folks and public workers the democrats rule the state. You LET them rule the state. Last election just 35% of eligible voters turned out. A fair number of seats were won by less than 2000 votes. Some by just a couple of hundred. The solution to taking back our state is so simple, so obvious. And it doesn't take a panel of lawyers or some far away court to sprinkle fairy dust on our sorry asses. All it takes is for you to vote and convince one or two like-minded people to vote as well. Instead we are instructed by NJ2AS and ANJRPC not to vote but to email and call as many democrats as we can, and as often as we can, to lecture them on our constitutional and God-given rights. Can't beat Sweeney in a real election? Recall him! Don't forget, next time NJ2AS or ANJRPC tells you to drive to Trenton to testify before stone-faced democrat committee members to take a day off from work to do so. That plan has worked great! Let's keep it going! I love those Youtube videos of our pro2A officials smirking while Joe from Jersey City berates the legislators he's trying to convince. Way to win! Yay! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted April 11, 2015 Hopefully the recall will happen, if nothing more than to show the politicians they must stay in check. Btw if you don't vote, you have no right to bitch. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted April 11, 2015 We should post & bump here during the elections to remind everyone to vote. Some of us may be busy and have it slip our minds.... maybe a mod can make a thread then ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted April 12, 2015 Hopefully the recall will happen, if nothing more than to show the politicians they must stay in check. Btw if you don't vote, you have no right to bitch. Hope is worthless. Either you make it happen or you don't. Which will it be? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted April 12, 2015 Well, reading the news, he's a little upset. 1 if recall doesn't work and he becomes governor we get 10 rds. 2 if no recall he becomes governor we get 10 rds 3 if recall works, maybe we don't get 10 rds I vote, my wife votes. We encourage everyone we know to vote. I can't understand why people don't vote! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,134 Posted April 12, 2015 Well, reading the news, he's a little upset. 1 if recall doesn't work and he becomes governor we get 10 rds. 2 if no recall he becomes governor we get 10 rds 3 if recall works, maybe we don't get 10 rds I vote, my wife votes. We encourage everyone we know to vote. I can't understand why people don't vote! It is a done deal anyway and i think we all know it already. Any demorat gov will be on anti auto pilot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nucrunner 75 Posted April 12, 2015 Like it or not, we're all in... 2A is pretty strong in District 3, there are many good Republicans in the Assemblyman, Freeholder positions in these counties. Sweeny strikes me as the revengeful type, if the recall fails miserably, every gun owner is going to pay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SW9racer 262 Posted April 12, 2015 ... Mark my words. We have until November, 2016. Nineteen f-ing months. ... kiss your gun rights in this state, as well as your asses, farewell. Election is 2017, so Feb 2018 is when it's over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted April 12, 2015 Election is 2017, so Feb 2018 is when it's over. When is the prior legislative election, the last one where Christie will be governor, and we have the potential for a republican-controlled legislature? That's the one. February 2018, when a democrat is sworn in as governor, is a constant. By then it will already be way too late. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted April 12, 2015 You LET them rule the state. Last election just 35% of eligible voters turned out. A fair number of seats were won by less than 2000 votes. Some by just a couple of hundred. The solution to taking back our state is so simple, so obvious. And it doesn't take a panel of lawyers or some far away court to sprinkle fairy dust on our sorry asses. All it takes is for you to vote and convince one or two like-minded people to vote as well. Instead we are instructed by NJ2AS and ANJRPC not to vote but to email and call as many democrats as we can, and as often as we can, to lecture them on our constitutional and God-given rights. Can't beat Sweeney in a real election? Recall him! Don't forget, next time NJ2AS or ANJRPC tells you to drive to Trenton to testify before stone-faced democrat committee members to take a day off from work to do so. That plan has worked great! Let's keep it going! I love those Youtube videos of our pro2A officials smirking while Joe from Jersey City berates the legislators he's trying to convince. Way to win! Yay! I think you have a case of mistaken identity. I vote in every election. Secondly I've never read a word written by NJ2AS and only have read the payment instructions for my cherry ridge membership from ANJRPC. Democrats are much better at stirring up the vote or there really aren't that many republicans. By their nature the democrats don't care about your constitutional or God given rights. They only care about pandering to those that will get them elected over and over again. Finally since I've never voted for a democrat, I don't feel I let them rule the state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted April 12, 2015 I think you have a case of mistaken identity. I vote in every election. Secondly I've never read a word written by NJ2AS and only have read the payment instructions for my cherry ridge membership from ANJRPC. Democrats are much better at stirring up the vote or there really aren't that many republicans. By their nature the democrats don't care about your constitutional or God given rights. They only care about pandering to those that will get them elected over and over again. Finally since I've never voted for a democrat, I don't feel I let them rule the state. I'll echo this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted April 12, 2015 Like it or not, we're all in... 2A is pretty strong in District 3, there are many good Republicans in the Assemblyman, Freeholder positions in these counties. Sweeny strikes me as the revengeful type, if the recall fails miserably, every gun owner is going to pay. I concur, I grew up( sorta) in his district I'm familiar with the lay of the land Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted April 13, 2015 I think you have a case of mistaken identity. I vote in every election. Secondly I've never read a word written by NJ2AS and only have read the payment instructions for my cherry ridge membership from ANJRPC. Democrats are much better at stirring up the vote or there really aren't that many republicans. For every one of you, two don't vote. Just on pure numbers 1 million NJ gun owners, say half don't care or are too old or disabled = 500,000. Assuming same participation rate that means 300,000+ don't vote. If you could get just 1/3 of them to vote that's 100,000 votes. That's easily enough to turn both legislative houses around. I'm not asking for a miracle, just that one in ten gun owners over current numbers vote. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted April 13, 2015 Like it or not, we're all in... 2A is pretty strong in District 3, there are many good Republicans in the Assemblyman, Freeholder positions in these counties. Sweeny strikes me as the revengeful type, if the recall fails miserably, every gun owner is going to pay. even without this, he'll screw us as much as he can when he's governer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted April 13, 2015 Christie conditionally vetoed a few bills. Could Sweeney instantly sign em? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted April 13, 2015 Christie conditionally vetoed a few bills. Could Sweeney instantly sign em?Christie only did it to pander for republican nomination for president. He's a gun hater and supported the AWB as AG. If he gets pushed out of the running is guess he's support future gun legislation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nucrunner 75 Posted April 14, 2015 Gunforhire radio gave a little head's up on the recall project in this past past weekend's radio podcast. Next weekend's GFH show they're having NJ2AS President Alexander Roubian as a guest. I heard Roubain talk about the recall at Banger's a couple of months ago, his plan is based on the successful recall effort in Colorado last year. The more people that know about this, the better the chance of pulling it off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maintenanceguy 509 Posted April 14, 2015 When does this start? I've heard about it in the beginning but now that they've filed the paperwork, isn't there a time limit to collect signatures? Getting 25% off registered voters to sign is going to be a challenge but it's not Patterson or Jersey City. It's rural South Jersey. If there is a chance anywhere, there is a chance here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10X 3,278 Posted April 14, 2015 Christie only did it to pander for republican nomination for president. He's a gun hater and supported the AWB as AG. He was a US Attorney, not Attorney General. I'm not sure what he did or didn't do, but the Department of Justice makes it pretty clear that a US Attorney is not to take a position on any pending legislation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted April 14, 2015 He was a US Attorney, not Attorney General. I'm not sure what he did or didn't do, but the Department of Justice makes it pretty clear that a US Attorney is not to take a position on any pending legislation. Talking about this I presume ^^^^^^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites