Open Carry Proponent Attacked with Bat in Attempt to Steal His Pistol

[High Exposure 5,664]

Just because you can doesn't mean you should. There is a time and place to OC your blaster. Shopping at WalMart isn't it.

 

Don't be this guy. Cover your shit:

 

http://bearingarms.com/felon-attacks-open-carrier-weapon-washington-walmart/?utm_source=gpfbp&utm_medium=fbpage&utm_campaign=gpupdate

Felon Attacks Open Carrier for His Weapon In Washington Walmart

 

Posted by Bob Owens on April 15, 2015 at 11:36 am

 

A Yakima, Washington man was attacked in a Walmart by a suspect armed with a bat, and the local media reported part of the story:

A 32-year-old man who was shopping with at least three children at a Yakima Wal-Mart was the victim of an unprovoked assault when a stranger picked up a metal tee-ball bat and struck him, according to Yakima police.

 

The victim was not injured, but he did have a concealed weapons permit, which he immediately put to use, police said.

 

A store security officer reported hearing a man in the sporting goods department yelling “Get on the ground!” and found one man pointing a pistol at another, who was lying on the floor.

 

Police arrived a short time later and arrested the 30-year-old suspect, who remains in Yakima County jail in lieu of $30,000 bail set Monday.

That's part of the story, but definitely not all of it, or even the most important part. As is so often the case, the real story emerged in the comments to the article, where Brad Walker, who self-identified as the father of the victim, explained that the criminal's apparent goal was to steal his son's openly carried Sig Sauer pistol.

The attacker swung full force for his head.

The gun was carried "open Carry"

It was a 357 sig We think this person was trying to get the handgun by knockout hitting him in the head with a aluminum bat.

He side stepped the blow and took the impact in the neck and shoulder he is receiving Dr.s treatment.

He thanks god that no one else was hurt and that he did not have to use lethal force.

I was in law enforcement and during my academy training my son helped me study he knew how to safely defend himself and his family lawfully.

Hopefully this attacker will not be released to hurt other people.

Mr. Walker goes on to state that the man who attacked his son for his weapon was a convicted felon with previous assaults on his record.

 

He also stated that he thinks that his son will now follow his advice and carry his weapon concealed from now on.

 

Open carriers have been robbed before of their weapons, and it appears that the suspect in this case and in prior instances was set upon by a criminal in a crime of opportunity.

 

While open carry is legal in most parts of the nation, comparatively few people who have the option exercise it, and almost none who have considerable self-defense training take this route. Well-trained gun owners instead preferring to carry concealed so as to maintain anonymity so that they don't stand out as a target for criminals and retain the tactical advantage of being armed, but not visibly so.

[MidwestPX 172]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: open carry is stupid.

[High Exposure 5,664]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: open carry is stupid.

There are times when OC makes sense: working on your property, in the back-country, hunting, etc....

 

Going shopping, being in view and, more importantly, in reach of the public, or anytime you are going to be surrounded by strangers, it's just dumb IMO.

[jackandjill 683]

Given that NJ doesnt provide any other legal option, is it also stupid for NJ Citizens to Open Carry  Unloaded Long Guns with FPID ?

[JackDaWack 2,895]

Given that NJ doesnt provide any other legal option, is it also stupid for NJ Citizens to Open Carry Unloaded Long Guns with FPID ?

what would be the point? You can't load and use it, even if you were being attacked.

[Newtonian 453]

Desperately seeking a Mipafox post on this topic.

[1LtCAP 4,262]

funny...i get ridiculed when i say open carry can make you the victim.

 

 is it our right? dam straight? is it overly stupid? in most cases, absofuckinglutley.

[PeteF 1,044]

funny...i get ridiculed when i say open carry can make you the victim.

 

is it our right? dam straight? is it overly stupid? in most cases, absofuckinglutley.

Please state all the times a police officer was attacked by someone trying to steal his gun. As they are the largest % of open carriers there should be hundreds of stories.

 

No? There aren't? Well I guess your premise falls apart, doesn't it?

[jrfly3006 42]

Please state all the times a police officer was attacked by someone trying to steal his gun. As they are the largest % of open carriers there should be hundreds of stories.

No? There aren't? Well I guess your premise falls apart, doesn't it?

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2014/08/30/57-police-officers-were-fatally-shot-by-unarmed-suspects/

 

As of Aug 2014 57 cops killed with their own gun taken by a perpetrator..so yes there are stories

[High Exposure 5,664]

Please state all the times a police officer was attacked by someone trying to steal his gun. As they are the largest % of open carriers there should be hundreds of stories.

 

No? There aren't? Well I guess your premise falls apart, doesn't it?

If everyone that practiced open carry used a Safariland level II or III holster I would have a little less of a problem with it. Unfortunately, everyone seems to carry in an Uncle Cheech Bargain Basement Holster. I would also have a little less of a problem if people practicing OC also had a little bit of situational awareness. A cop at work is not a dad out with his family, in responsibility or mindset.

 

Also, carrying your pistol on a duty belt as a uniformed officer while working is not comprable to going to Wallmart/Home Depot/Costco with your family. Apples to hand grenades.

[CMJeepster 2,778]

Please state all the times a police officer was attacked by someone trying to steal his gun. As they are the largest % of open carriers there should be hundreds of stories.

No? There aren't? Well I guess your premise falls apart, doesn't it?

Mike Brown in Ferguson, MO doesn't pop out to you?

[PeteF 1,044]

Also, carrying your pistol on a duty belt as a uniformed officer while working is not comprable to going to Wallmart/Home Depot/Costco with your family. Apples to hand grenades.

Why isn't it the same because cops never loose attention to there surroundings?  Because cops never make mistakes?  Because cops are god like?

Bullshit.  Cops are people, they have the same failabilites as anyone else.

 

 

Mike Brown in Ferguson, MO doesn't pop out to you?

Yeah Brown attacked the cop for the sole purpose of taking his gun.  Ummmm NO.  Try again.

 

 

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2014/08/30/57-police-officers-were-fatally-shot-by-unarmed-suspects/

 

As of Aug 2014 57 cops killed with their own gun taken by a perpetrator..so yes there are stories

So did they attack the cop just to get his gun and shoot him or did they attack the cop for a different reason and take the gun.  So of the ~1000000 LEOS in the country 57 were shot by there own weapon.  Want to work that percentage out?

 

 

Do I recommend OC, probably not for me.  But all the people here claiming it is stupid are full of it. 

If its so stupid and offers no advantage, why then do police open carry?  If CC offers such an advantage why do suit cops (Lieutenants, detectives etc) not CC?

[gleninjersey 2,141]

You could also walk around carrying a HUGE amount of cash in your hand instead of in your wallet. I would rather not advertise my business to complete strangers.

[Zeke 5,504]

You could also walk around carrying a HUGE amount of cash in your hand instead of in your wallet. I would rather not advertise my business to complete strangers.

This^^^^

Less info the better. I get the symbolism, I do. But, I also get the real world.......

[kman 56]

The big question is how long a prison sentence this bat wielding maniac gets? 

[djg0770 481]

Also, carrying your pistol on a duty belt as a uniformed officer while working is not comprable to going to Wallmart/Home Depot/Costco with your family. Apples to hand grenades.

 

Also, add to this that most cops, once out of uniform do not open carry except perhaps for the School Resource Officer and the cop at the range.