Open Carry might not pass in Texas after all......

[Midwest 28]

Open Carry might not pass in Texas after all.......

 

Open carry in Texas might be shot down...pun intended. The sticking point seems to be an amendment that would prevents cops from stopping OC carriers to see if they have a valid concealed permit. The reason for the amendment was so that minorities would not be singled out if they were OC.

 

However Austin's police chief is against the amendment because he claims it would create unlicensed open carry. The police chief is described as having "no respect"  for the second amendment and is originally from California, which might  answer some questions.

 

If this all falls through, unfortunately it will be another two years before the bill can be introduced again. Or... if the Texas Governor can call a special session to deal with the open carry legislation specifically.  As they say..stay tuned. This might go all the way to the wire, as the old saying goes.

 

 

http://bearingarms.com/police-chief-opposition-activist-idiocy-may-kill-open-carry-texas/

 

 

"Five senators and representatives will have to reach a compromise in the language of the bill that both the House and Senate agree upon. If they can’t agree, the legislation is dead. If they agree, the compromise legislation must then be approved in new votes by both the House and Senate. They must do so by Monday. If both Houses fail to pass the legislation, or the session expires, the legislation is dead."

 

 

Note: If any wishes to see the live proceeding. Check out

http://www.house.state.tx.us/video-audio/

 

If anyone wants to view an ongoing 19 page commentary of the this and the proceedings, then check out a thread at THR.

 

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=778140

 

 

 

 

 

[mipafox 438]

Yeah, great gun laws they have there.

[mikelets456 78]

Yeah, great gun laws they have there.

 

 

I know, I tell that to new and would be gun owners all the time. When I was down there in January I was always reading up before going anywhere down there.No open carry of handguns, but you can with rifles (kind of), No bar carry if 51% of their business is from alcohol. Then there's the 30.06 gun signs---you could be prosecuted on private property even if you're a legal carrier. Then the "no guns allowed" that adds to the confusion, then felony for CHURCH carry and add on top the training requirements, etc. I find it much better in PA, NC and other states.

[T Bill 649]

Austin is the center of liberalism in Texas, does not surprise me about the attitude there.  The majority of Texas is direct opposite.  A compromise will occur and this will pass.

[Midwest 28]

The world media is picking up on the story. It mentions  both sides of the issue.

 

 

Police complaints prompt Texas to reconsider open carry amendment

 

http://rt.com/usa/262789-texas-amendment-open-carry/

 

 

"Opposition from police is being attributed with a decision in the Texas legislature this week to stall an amendment, which would let cops ask gun owners to produce firearms permits on the spot. It’s complicating the future of the state’s open carry rules.

The Texas legislature has to act before the end of the month on a bill that would let handguns be carried openly in the Lone Star State, but the House on Wednesday stalled efforts by electing to send a controversial amendment to a bipartisan conference committee. "

[mipafox 438]

In Jersey I would believe it, but in Texas I find it hard to believe police would be against this. When "police" speak out on gun control, it's rarely the consensus or real cops. As demonstrated by the Police One survey.

 

It is funny that unpermitted open carry is legal in dozens of states and police can't detain anyone or demand ID for it, and everything is just fine. But Texas is the one place where it would threaten the safety of police and the Citizenry.

[magnawing 5]

It's not "The Police"...it's one Police Chief in one city. That city just happens to be the state capital and the PC is a commie prick from Kalifornia. The rest of the state, for the most part, looks at Austin with scorn and disdain. It's considered the San Francisco of the south and most real Texans try to stay as far away as possible.

 

 

This is my signature. There are many like it but this one is mine.

[Zeke 5,504]

Heading to the governors desk

[Zeke 5,504]

Texas poised to allow open carry of handguns http://ap.worldnow.com/story/29194357/texas-poised-to-allow-open-carry-of-handguns

[magnawing 5]

In order to get compromise between both houses of the legislature, they removed the portion that said LE can't stop someone who's OC just to check their permit. So, when Gov Abbott signs it, it will go into effect on January 1, 2016 and police can stop anyone who is OC and verify that they have a valid carry permit.

 

 

This signature is AWESOME!!!

[jm1827 284]

I just read where the Gov said he can't wait to sign it...just like PRNJ.

[magnawing 5]

Abbott said before he was even sworn in that he would pass open carry if it came across his desk.

 

 

This signature is AWESOME!!!

[Jfoster99 80]

Texas law are very interesting... When I took the TX CCW class we reviewed all the scenarios where your could use deadly force. The one that stands out for me had to do with trespass and mischief.

 

The example went like this. If someone was on your property letting air out of your car tires during the day you could not use deadly force. But if done at night you can use deadly force.

 

Apparently they give you extra leeway at night since it is potentially harder to distinguish between a mischievous act and a deadly threat?

 

You could basically shoot any trespasser at night.... They took " stand you ground" and put it on steroids...