kc17 622 Posted June 25, 2015 http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-M4-16-Upper-Receiver-Group-p/bcm-urg-m4-16.htm Listing says it has a Mod 0 Compensator, is that NJ legal? I do not see where it says if the barrel is threaded or not. I also see no mention of a bayonet lug. I will be attempting to read up on the different BCG and Charging Handle options offered, but will take opinions on them as well. Hand guard options seem straight forward enough, just need to decide on that as well. This would be getting mated to an Anderson lower (the one Steve is running the deal on) and this stock: http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/stock-parts/buttstocks/ar-15-m16-carbine-mil-spec-buttstock-kit-ar15-m4-stock-assembly-mil-spec-sku080-000-941-44659-99038.aspx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted June 26, 2015 The mod 0 will generate a lot of debate. The mod 1 is less aggressive and will generate debate. It's free so you can always change it and have some one pin one on. Looks nice though. 69 bucks for bcg and charging handle seems cheap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted June 26, 2015 Agree. There is and always will be debate on the Brake Mod 1 and 0. The BCG and Charging handle for 69 is a deal. the Upper is good quality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kc17 622 Posted June 26, 2015 So clearly my question on the threaded barrel was a tad bit stupid. Since the Compensator is threaded, the barrel has to be. Which would mean I'd need to get it welded. Based on what I can tell, the only real differences in the charging handles is the size of the handle/grip. I'm thinking since I do not yet know what I like, I might be better served spending a little more for the ambidextrous one? I'm still trying to figure out the differences between the 16" M4. the 16" Mid Length, and the 16" Recce. The Recce is the highest price so I guess better build/material? The Mid Length middle price, and the M4 the lowest. I need to dig up the law on muzzle devices again (I know I've seen it on here somewhere) and see what I can decipher from that on the Mod 0 compensator I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,738 Posted June 26, 2015 No such thing as a stupid question. The difference between the M4 and Mid length carbine is the length of the gas system. The mid length gas system is longer, making for a softer shooting carbine, at the expense of some reliability, or requiring more tuning to make them reliable (head down for incoming shit storm). I'm not saying there is anything wrong with mid lengths, but my experience with them was that they were a little fussy. My carbine length gas systems are 100% reliable, but a little harsher to shoot. Muzzle devices in NJ are anyone's guess, since there are no clear and concise rules regarding them. I'd say that if a device advertises 'flash mitigation' as a primary feature, I'd personally not choose it for my rifle, but your mileage may vary. There has been quite lengthy and heated discussions on this subject in the past. You may want to try searching this site for more information. You will have to get whatever muzzle device you choose pinned on. I recommend shipping it to Adco Firearms in Sylvania, OH. They have always done excellent work for me, in a timely manner. There are also several great vendors on this site that can do compliance work for you, as well. Nothing at all wrong with a BCM M4 upper. Should that be your choice, they make an excellent product and stand behind it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kc17 622 Posted June 26, 2015 Thanks for the explanation on the M4 and Mid Length differences. Could you give a comparison on the difference in kick that I may be able to relate to? For example 22 and 9mm pistol or 22 and 357. Or 22 rifle vs shotgun. Or am I trying to talk apples and oranges here. I'm not a large guy, so recoil does need to be a consideration, but I'm also not planning to lay down hundreds of rounds on a regular basis. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,738 Posted June 26, 2015 'Kick', or recoil, is largely subjective. A 5.56mm round out of a carbine length gas system doesn't have much recoil, but there is a noticeable difference between carbine, mid length, and rifle length gas systems. Rifle length being the softest to shoot. Good technique is the key to recoil management in shooting any caliber rifle. I doubt you'll have any problems managing recoil from any 5.56mm round. It ain't gonna bite ya! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSD1026 48 Posted June 26, 2015 Even being a newbie to the AR platform myself, I have found the recoil from either 223 or 5.56 is pretty negligible. Not quite as soft as 22, but it wont hurt your shoulder to shoot it. It is considerably closer to 22 recoil than it is to shotgun recoil. one of the softer shooting centerfire rifle rounds... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kc17 622 Posted June 26, 2015 Great. Probably going to go with this upper once I decide on charging handle and hand guard. Unless any further research leads me away from the Mod 0. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted June 26, 2015 If you like it just get another brake and have it welded by a gun smith here. It appears you are close to remixer, have it delivered there and I'm pretty sure he can weld a brake for you. Just get a Battle comp or a pws if you are worried. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,738 Posted June 26, 2015 I use the BCM Mod 3 (medium) charging handles on all my AR's. I consider it a mandatory addition to mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kc17 622 Posted June 26, 2015 I've already been in contact with Steve. I've bought from him before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
My1stGlock 144 Posted June 29, 2015 He's pinned all four of my AR's and not one complaint!! Definitely take a look at the Batlecomp 1.0. Nice and clean too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
