Joe P. 4 Posted July 23, 2015 Minutes from USPSA board meeting last week... Carry Optics to be tested for balance of 2015 for potential inclusion for 2016. .level 1 only Can someone define Carry Optics for a newb please ... is it a dot ?... posted on FB by Steve Thomas: Bruce Gary wrote this concerning the minutes and "Carry Optics". Please read. Steve Hi, all As posted previously, the minutes are out from the in-person USPSA Board meeting held last weekend in Louisville, KY. Probably the most notable item is that we decided to give "Carry Optics" a formal try. In essence, as soon as the systems are modified to score and process the activity, we'll give the green-light to run "Carry Optics" as a provisional division, within a bunch of guard-rails: -- level-1 matches only -- guns must be under a specified weight, all-up, including optic and empty mag -- other than that, all other production-division equipment rules apply We're doing this as an experiment, to see whether there really is interest from membership and industry in this new segment. We'll run it this way through the end of the year, evaluate the data, and then decide whether to keep going, change it, expand it into bigger matches, or...something else. Please do let us know what works and what doesn't as this unfolds. We purposely made the initial set of provisional equipment rules *very* restrictive, with the idea that it is always easier to relax rules than it is to tighten them up once the games have begun. PLEASE NOTE: current production-division rules do NOT allow for the milling of a slide to accomodate a big cut-out for an optic mount. That means if you mill a big chunk out of your slide to play in Carry Optics, your gun may no longer be legal in Production. I am not personally sure whether this can be resolved with an "interpretation" from NROI, or whether it requires a formal change to the Production division rules, just... be forewarned, and don't make any big changes to your beloved Production gun until/unless the ramifications are clear. Lots of other stuff going on, let me know if you want info on anything in particular. Bruce Gary pdf of the minutes: http://www.uspsa.org/bodminutes/20150718.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted July 23, 2015 http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=218851#entry2435363 In *broad* terms, Carry Optics will start out being any Production-legal gun with a slide-mounted optic, with a couple of guardrails-- max weight of 33oz, including optic and empty mag-- no box, but a max mag-length-- no more than 4 oz over the weight shown on the Production gun list-- all other Production-division rules (allowed modifications, etc) still applyI would make a couple of recommendations1) wait until the provisional rules are published before making any decisions2) be *sure* that any modifications you make to a production-legal gun don't make it illegal if you want to go back to Production3) tell us what you think. We're starting small, gathering data, and will be making decisions (changes, whatever) as we learn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe P. 4 Posted July 23, 2015 boom , i should have looked there first .. thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites