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Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent a person keeping or carrying about his place of business, residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, any firearm, or from carrying the same, in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section, from any place of purchase to his residence or place of business, between his dwelling and his place of business, between one place of business or residence and another when moving, or between his dwelling or place of business and place where such firearms are repaired, for the purpose of repair. For the purposes of this section, a place of business shall be deemed to be a fixed location.

 

Question:  If you're a stock holder of the company in which you hold a position, are you exempted  as long as the company you are an owner of (albeit a relatively small percentage) does not have a codified policy against firearms on the property?

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Off Topic, but this is related to:

 

Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent a person keeping or carrying about his place of business, residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, any firearm, or from carrying the same, in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section, from any place of purchase to his residence or place of business, between his dwelling and his place of business, between one place of business or residence and another when moving, or between his dwelling or place of business and place where such firearms are repaired, for the purpose of repair. For the purposes of this section, a place of business shall be deemed to be a fixed location.

 

Question:  If you're a stock holder of the company in which you hold a position, are you exempted  as long as the company you are an owner of (albeit a relatively small percentage) does not have a codified policy against firearms on the property?

Yes! I own a fractional share of IBM and I bring my guns to their locations all over the world. They call me "Sheriff." 

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I belong to both. RTSP is close and I shoot a lot of handguns. I test fire rifles there I built. It's warm in the winter, and dry in the rain. But only 25 yard on range 1. Range 2 is 15 handgun only. Member with rifle is $425 for the year. And I get all the member discounts. The virtual simulator is awesome, as well as all the training courses offered. Members only on sat and sun from 8am-10am. Usually no lines. During the week members jump non members waiting for a port. They also offer gunsmith services on premises, and have a great selection of firearms in stock. The guys that work there will jump through hoops to make you happy. You get 5 guest passes per year with your membership.

CR is great for long range rifle and busting clays if that's your thing. They have a handgun and archery range as well. Membership is less than RTSP, but it's a longer ride for me. So I don't shoot there as often. The RO's have calmed down as well, but they still have specific rules about flagging open chambers. No big deal once you get used to it.

 
I agree with all of Newtonian's points regarding Cherry Ridge Range in his post #20. 
Like DeerSlayer, I am also a member at RTSP and just recently joined Cherry Ridge Range, so I now have the best of both worlds, a qualtiy indoor range with nice facilities and a retail store as well, and now a large diversified outdoor range in a beautiful natural setting.  For the most part, I can only shoot at either range on the weekends due to my M-F work schedule and family obligations.  Eventually, I look forward to being able to enjoy both ranges during the week when there are fewer members shooting and less of a wait.  Here are some of my thoughts on both ranges:
 
RTSP:  Randolph, NJ is only about a 30 minute drive from my home so it is relatively convenient.  From my experience, I believe that RTSP is an excellent 5-star indoor range where everyone I have dealt with, from the Owners, Instructors, Retail Sales to General Staff, are all very outgoing, helpful, knowledgeable, and courteous.  I have purchased several guns from them getting a member discount and have used them as my FFL for two others.  I have taken several courses there which have been very helpful and educational.  I even convinced my wife to take a 2-hr. private one-on-one lesson with one of their senior instructors to introduce her to the safe and proper handling and shooting of a hand gun.  It turns out she is a pretty good shot and now enjoys joining me at the range every 4-6 weeks to practice and I bought her a membership as well.  All in all, while not an inexpensive range, I can highly recommend RTSP.
 
Cherry Ridge Range:  Highland Lakes, NJ is just under a 1 hr. drive from my home, but is a nice drive when there is not much traffic.  Like many here, I researched the various outdoor ranges in NJ and discovered that Cherry Ridge is one of the very few that have a 200yd and 300yd range for rifles, something that I was specifically looking for.  The joining process is very straight forward.  I pre-paid via credit card online and attended the mandatory safety orientation seminar on the first Sunday of the month and was up and shooting the same day.  I like the fact that I can drive my vehicle right down to the 200 yd range line, making transfering my equipment to and from my station a very convenient short distance.  When the weather is nice as it has been this past August and so far in Sept., I really enjoy being able to be outdoors to shoot any gun, pistol or rifle.  Cherry Ridge is in a beautifully remote setting which is a nice break from the denser parts of NJ. The members I met while shooting on the 200 yd. range were very friendly and willing to answer some basic procedural questions for a new member and even assist me in zeroing my rifle at that distance.  I learned a lot that day, including the fact that I need to invest in a quality spotting scope for future use at both 200 and 300 yards.  Since this range is associated with ANJRPC, I appeciate that my dues help support their 2A lobbying efforts in New Jersey. Its annual membership costs are also is not as expensive as some of the other outdoor ranges.
 
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I've been to both RTSP and the range at Cherry Ridge exactly once.  My comments are, more or less, just to confirm what's already been shared, but also share my personal experiences.  

 

RTSP - A very nice, clean indoor facility.  I can't say the ROs are "friendly".  They more or less just go about their business with straight faces, which is just fine.  Most of the time, the 2 or 3 ROs on my side of the range, the rifle side, where I was shooting my pistols, were just chatting with each other.  Is that good or bad?  Time was definitely a factor for me, as I arrived at the range about 1.5 hours of closing on a Sunday evening.  I ended up waiting about 45 minutes for a port.  When one opened up, I ended up paying for a full hour, but only able to shoot for 45 minutes or so.  That was my call, though, as I decided it was worth it for me, considering how long I had waited for a port to become available, and how long it had been since I had last practiced.  My gripe with the rifle side of the range is that it lacks climate control.  Boy, it was hot in that range that day.  I'm not sure if the A/C was broken or what, but when I walked into the pistol side of the range, it was much cooler. 

 

Cherry Ridge - I live about 30-35 minutes from this range.  It's becomes a beautiful drive taking 23N up to this range when all the strip malls and restaurants fade away.  My friend is a member, and kindly invited me up for a Saturday afternoon shoot.  We stayed for about 2.5 hours, but could have stayed all day until just before sundown with a $25 guest pass.  When we made it down to the pistol range, we were greeted by many, many, many open ports/shooting tables.  As previously mentioned, we waited for the range to go cold before we could set up our own targets.  However, it's not like you have to just wait around.  There are steel plates set up at 25 yards at the pistol range.  At the 100 yard rifle range, the steel plates are set up at 100 yards.  It was nice to have the option to shoot the plates while waiting.  The RO at the pistol range was surprisingly friendly, despite his gruff look.  As a guest, I walked across certain lines drawn on the ground, and had to be corrected by the RO.  Was he a stickler about the rules?  Yes.  Was he a dick?  Definitely not.  In fact, at times, he took the time to offer shooting advice.  Admittedly, my buddy and I aren't bullseye shooters.  The 100 yard rifle range lacked an RO.  The shooters just sort of managed the line and called out when the range was cold and hot by themselves.  You can tell that the members are very conscious about clear communication and responsible for safety.  I left the range that day thinking, "I'm attending the very next membership meeting".

 

After shooting at an outdoor range for the first time ever, I find that I very much prefer shooting outdoors.  The weather can become a concern I suppose.  For me, unless it's very light, rain would certainly deter me from shooting outdoors.  But rain would deter me from driving up to an indoor range as well.  Who likes to drive in the rain?  Snow?  Shooting in snow would be cool, hah!  Cold vs. heat.  just wear more or less clothing.  You'll always have shade either way.

 

Just my $.02.

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Some of us love the place in the winter... basically get the place to yourself... layer up and bring the thermos.... i even bring a little buddy heater... For those of us who hunt, its a walk in the park.

Tell me about it. I was there one day this winter I was the only one at the 50/100 range for a few hours.

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You are comparing apples to oranges.  If you really want to mix it up why not consider places like Shongum Sportsmen's association, Old Bridge Rifle & Pistol which have both outdoor and indoor facilities.  If you want just indoor pistol then RTSP is your best bet, but if you want rifle outdoors also you should consider the two I just mentioned.

niether of which have openings unless someone croaks  . Last time i asked it was 1-2  year wait for shongum.

  CR is great place if you dont mind waiting for target change. Never had a problem with any RO there . All of them have been genrally friendly.

Ability to shoot in all conditions is helpful for those who are trying to increase their tactical skills. If the shtf i dont think that anyones going to call a battle because its to cold or its raining.

  CR my vote

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