revenger 472 Posted September 17, 2015 Sweeny trying to override veto of S2360, NJ.com has an article about the democrats and some republicans trying to override a bill that was vetoed. The article goes on to say that local county and state law enforcement would be alerted if someone with a history of mental history asks a judge to expunge their record of psychiatric treatment so they can buy a firearm. Exactly what would be expunged? Can anyone explain just what records of treatment they are talking about. We have to fill out that consent form when we buy guns which checks for a court ordered commitment to a institution, just what records are they talking about. I don't think any other records exist other than a court ordered commitment. The act of just going to see a doctor is not on any record that is available to them, If that was the case half of the gun owners in NJ would be prohibited. Just because a person seeks help from a doctor the only way a record would be created is if the patient expressed a willingness to hurt themselves or others. I shoot with several people who are currently seeing a shrink once in a while and never answer yes on any form as is their 5th amendment right not to. Anybody know the answer to this it just seems a bit odd to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intercooler 41 Posted September 17, 2015 they want to prohibit as many people as they can...plain and simple plus it makes Christie look bad after he said he saved the 2nd amendment here (which is true really) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted September 17, 2015 shocking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted September 17, 2015 What demotards want more stupid laws that only the law abiding will honor, this is just another bad repeat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted September 17, 2015 Sweeney really needs to go.....this recall is so important Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex V 99 Posted September 22, 2015 Sweeney really needs to go.....this recall is so important Yeah? And how is that going? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted September 22, 2015 Yeah? And how is that going? If you don't know then you haven't done your part. Now you're going to blame him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted September 22, 2015 You got me ...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted September 22, 2015 Sweeny trying to override veto of S2360, NJ.com has an article about the democrats and some republicans trying to override a bill that was vetoed. The article goes on to say that local county and state law enforcement would be alerted if someone with a history of mental history asks a judge to expunge their record of psychiatric treatment so they can buy a firearm. Exactly what would be expunged? Does it matter? The fact that one had such a record with the county will still be made known to the investigating PD. The SP-066 was changed to add a check box that says "Expunged." For any PD looking to discourage ownership, I'd venture that would be enough for a "denial," or at least, more documentation as to the nature of the activity there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex V 99 Posted September 23, 2015 If you don't know then you haven't done your part. Now you're going to blame him? Not one bit. Just consider NJ a lost cause. Hope I am proven wrong, but I also hope I won't be in NJ long enough to see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 472 Posted September 25, 2015 looks like sweeny fell short of a veto override. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted September 25, 2015 looks like sweeny fell short of a veto override.Thank God ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,554 Posted September 25, 2015 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayWilling 33 Posted September 25, 2015 This looks like an amazingly useless bill, changing the way expungement works in NJ but only as it relates to firearm rights? Typical friggin' Sweeney. He has promised to bring it back often. The Jennifer Beck of Monmouth and Christopher Connors of Ocean were the only R's to go along with Sweeney, FYI. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted September 25, 2015 Thank God ! Not so much. It was pulled before a vote. So Sweeney will bring it up again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,259 Posted September 25, 2015 and when he's governor, it will go through. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted September 25, 2015 and when he's governor, it will go through.Your right on that .......unfortunately Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matty 810 Posted September 25, 2015 Remember, they hate you, personally, for owning firearms in NJ. This goes for nearly every politician in the state house ( R or D), and all of them in the Democrat Party. This is a fact. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted September 25, 2015 Remember, they hate you, personally, for owning firearms in NJ. This goes for nearly every politician in the state house ( R or D), and all of them in the Democrat Party. This is a fact. *Nearly*.... The reps in my former district (24th) are strongly pro-2A. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted September 27, 2015 So there a few out there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old Glock guy 1,125 Posted September 27, 2015 Not surprisingly, there was an editorial and a letter to the editor in today's Bergen Record chastising our legislators for being "cowards" on this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,766 Posted September 28, 2015 And soundbites on NJ101.5 of him whining about the loss. Funny, I don't remember him saying anything after Carole was murdered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,129 Posted September 28, 2015 All he did was try to 'melt' us like we were the Wicked Witches of The West by firing up his sprinklers! And then he pressured the West Deptford Township Council into abridging everyone's (especially ours) First Amendment rights of Free Speech and Assembly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyB 4,289 Posted September 28, 2015 All he did was try to 'melt' us like we were the Wicked Witches of The West by firing up his sprinklers! And then he pressured the West Deptford Township Council into abridging everyone's (especially ours) First Amendment rights of Free Speech and Assembly. Unless something changes on the Federal level. Sweeney will get even with us for those 2 Sundays on the sidewalk in front of his house!!! I actually thought the sprinkler thing was funny! The way he ignored Carol's family was just sad!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted September 28, 2015 He was gonna get even with us no matter what but yep....he will go harder after that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites