And so it begins....

[Budasac 13]

I've officially crossed over to the dark side. I bought my first AR a few months ago and now I'm starting my first build. Yesterday I finally came across a lower that I liked so now it begins. I have a RRA 2-stage trigger so far but nothing else. I'm sure I'll be placing numerous orders over the next week or two though.

 

[Scorpio64 5,147]

Black Rifleitis, symptoms, Onset, drained bank accounts, internet search finger, option overload, occasional spats of Turrets like cursing due to lost small items such as springs. Recovery rate is nearly 100%, Typically resolves with wide ear to ear grin, though sometimes a residual short term effect of sore arm muscles from patting one's self on the back may occur.

[tattooo 220]

Very nice lower bud

[T Bill 649]

Great time for a build. Prices are down, and inventory up! Choose wisely, Grasshopper!

 

Good Luck!

[Dan 177]

Make sure you grab up some extra lower common spring and detent parts! You will inevitably loose one or the other during a build. It kills the build buzz if you don't have spares around. Have fun!

[fumanchu182 23]

Make sure you grab up some extra lower common spring and detent parts! You will inevitably loose one or the other during a build. It kills the build buzz if you don't have spares around. Have fun!

 

I've built all four of my AR rifles and without fail every time I shoot a detent or a spring half way across the room, sage advice.

[checko 180]

Ah, I remember my first time.  Such innocence....

[JohnnyB 4,322]

Make sure you grab up some extra lower common spring and detent parts! You will inevitably loose one or the other during a build. It kills the build buzz if you don't have spares around. Have fun!

All kidding aside. I now sit in the shower with the doors closed and a white sheet on the floor. At least that way, if a spring goes flying, I can find it right away!!!

That stupid rear take down pin spring gets me every time!!!!!!

Budasac, welcome to a very expensive hobby!  Next thing you know, you will be converting your first Saiga into an AK47!!!

[checko 180]

All kidding aside. I now sit in the shower with the doors closed and a white sheet on the floor. At least that way, if a spring goes flying, I can find it right away!!!

That stupid rear take down pin spring gets me every time!!!!!!

Budasac, welcome to a very expensive hobby!  Next thing you know, you will be converting your first Saiga into an AK47!!!

 

 

Lol seriously?   Why not just buy this?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/920248/model-1-pivot-pin-detent-installation-tool-ar-15

[Budasac 13]

Very nice lower bud

Thank you. I was looking for something a little different, when I saw this one I thought it was perfect.

 

All kidding aside. I now sit in the shower with the doors closed and a white sheet on the floor. At least that way, if a spring goes flying, I can find it right away!!!That stupid rear take down pin spring gets me every time!!!!!!Budasac, welcome to a very expensive hobby! Next thing you know, you will be converting your first Saiga into an AK47!!!

I've been on a 1911 bender lately so the ARs may actually be easier on the wallet. We'll see how much self control I have. I've barely begun this one and have at least two more builds planned already.

[tattooo 220]

Nothing with this hobby is easier on the wallet....lol

[JohnnyB 4,322]

Lol seriously?   Why not just buy this?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/920248/model-1-pivot-pin-detent-installation-tool-ar-15

Perhaps because it's discontinued and no longer available!!

[DeerSlayer 241]

I just found 3 detent springs in my garage that I launched across the mess in there over the years of builds. Funny they all wound up in the same corner behind my snap-on tool box lol.

[T Bill 649]

Large clear plastic bags!

[Displaced Texan 11,731]

Large clear plastic bags!

This. When doing the front and rear takedown detents, I assemble them in a large clear plastic bag. If the spring launches, it stays in the bag.

[checko 180]

Perhaps because it's discontinued and no longer available!!

Touché. http://www.amazon.com/Wheeler-Pivot-Roll-Install-156243/dp/B00FSVWHHU

[Budasac 13]

Lol seriously? Why not just buy this?

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/920248/model-1-pivot-pin-detent-installation-tool-ar-15

Perhaps because it's discontinued and no longer available!!

I think I have one of those. My buddy gave me a box with "everything I need to build an AR." Pretty sure that was in there.

[Contrvlr 17]

Group buy

http://www.homedepot.com/p/The-Hillman-Group-1-4-in-x-2-in-Single-Hole-Clevis-Pin-10-Pack-883471/204726454

[Budasac 13]

I was hoping to find a lower parts kit today and install it but no body had one in stock. I did install the RRA National Match 2-stage trigger and Magpul grip. I'll check Heritage tomorrow, otherwise I'll have to order a parts kit along with everything else.

 

[Krdshrk 3,877]

You're better off ordering one online - best prices and availability.

 

Welcome to the build-your-own club

[tattooo 220]

I just found 3 detent springs in my garage that I launched across the mess in there over the years of builds. Funny they all wound up in the same corner behind my snap-on tool box lol.

That's like an early stocking stuffer....lol

[Budasac 13]

You're better off ordering one online - best prices and availability.

 

Welcome to the build-your-own club

I know but, I'm home and I'm impatient. I had the day off and wanted to do something with it. I'm looking through Brownells big book now.

[Rob0115 1,105]

I know but, I'm home and I'm impatient. I had the day off and wanted to do something with it. I'm looking through Brownells big book now.

If you go to RRA you can buy each part of an LPK individually or as a kit without FCG.  

[tattooo 220]

Midwayusa ships lighting fast & cheap....

[azmaveth 1]

Here's a Colt LPK minus the FCG. $60 ain't bad. 

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=SPK99796

[Budasac 13]

Well, after two weeks my shipment from Midway finally arrived. It was delivered to the wrong address, opened, taped up with duct tape and re-delivered. It looks like all my goodies are there though.

 

Ace Skeleton stock

Midwest Industries SS series hand guard

Skeleton trigger guard

Upper parts kit

Carbine buffer and spring

BCM Gunfighter medium charging handle

 

I also picked up a stripped Anderson upper. Hopefully my Brownell's order will be here today with the rest of my stuff.

 

 

 

 

[Budasac 13]

I test fitted the stock and hand guard just to get an idea of how it will look:

 

[Budasac 13]

Got some mo stuff in the mail today:

 

Lower parts kit

Anderson M-4 1-8 twist barrel

Anderson M-16 BCG

Spikes Tactical Black Melonite gas tube

Troy micro gas block

 

 

[T Bill 649]

i only know of a handful of trigger fingers that might possibly be able to function as fast as a bump fire stock. There used to be a trigger that fired on each movement of the trigger, forward and backward would release the sear.  Very dangerous. Don't know if it is still around. A nice 3.5lb trigger with tight travel tolerances is fine for everyday range use.  Otherwise, triggers should be matched to the rifle's main purpose.  FYI, National Match course of fire is 4.5 lbs minimum. 

[Vlad G 345]

Since people are talking about builds. I know there is a bump fire stock you can buy. Is there any special trigger ( that does not cost more than the rifle) that will allow legal rapid fire?

 

Define rapid fire. Are you talking bump fire, spray the berms rapid fire or controlled rapid fire?

 

I can shoot my rifle pretty fast at 'close' ranges, and if I'm really turned on that dayI can generally run 0.17 to 0.2 seconds splits while actually shooting at a target and letting the sights get back where I want them.  0.15 and lower is VERY good while aiming, and I'm guessing robots like Jerry M can get close to 0.10 splits. Beyond that you are talking full auto.

 

The above times can be done with almost any good modern trigger, you don't need anything magic, but they need to have a good positive reset and be sufficiently light.  For me a SD-3G works best for pure speed, but other like the AR Gold, and Hyperfire 24-c and so on. Pretty much anything around 3lb or lighter can be shot faster then you can control the gun, IMHO.