checko 180 Posted September 28, 2015 Im hoping to finish up my SPR build by the end of the year and was wondering what you guys are using for ammo. I'm not looking to buy the highest end possible just something to give me solid results. Ill have an 18" 1/8 SPR profile barrel looking to shoot around 300 yds Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted September 28, 2015 IMI 77gr OTM "Razor Core" aka MK262 mod 1 Accuracy: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_16/633767__ARCHIVED_THREAD____IMI_Razor_Core___New_2000ft_round.html&page=4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted September 28, 2015 Sierra Match King 69 grains over 25.5 Varget YMMV, good for 300 and beyond. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrfly3006 42 Posted September 28, 2015 Hornady 75gr BTHP Superformance from CMP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Old School 611 Posted September 28, 2015 Sierra Match King 69 grains over 25.5 Varget YMMV, good for 300 and beyond. Good choice! 1:9 will stabilize the 69gr just fine in most cases. Now I believe 25.5gr of Varget is a compressed load. IIRC I couldn't get that much in the case. What is your experience? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted September 28, 2015 Hornady 75gr BTHP over 23.5gr varget Soft shooting, 2500fps out of an 18" bull barrel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted September 28, 2015 Good choice! 1:9 will stabilize the 69gr just fine in most cases. Now I believe 25.5gr of Varget is a compressed load. IIRC I couldn't get that much in the case. What is your experience? Federal or IVI case, CCI primer, 2.235 OAL. YMMV. Can't remember any loading issues. Hodgdon states 24.0 to 26.0, started at 25.0 and stopped at 25.5, good enough. Not my regular load, was a joint effort with another who shoots 300M plus all the time, looking for long range Pdog loads.. I don't need that, 150 max normal for me. Nailing steel at that distance with boring regularity. Using a 24" SS 8T RGS Wylde bull barrel ( Wilson Arms) and an 18" SS 8T IGS Wylde medium (Odin Works).. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted September 28, 2015 Factory ammo: 77gr FGMM Handload: 75gr Hornady BTHP powered by 24.7gr of H4895 with a muzzle velocity of 2860fps Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted September 28, 2015 68gr hornady hpbt with 24.5 gr of Tac. It is in 5.56 pressure land, but they move at 2850 from a 18" barrel and accurate enough for what I do. Making 400+ yard first shot hits on 2-3 moa targets from improvised rests with a 6x scope is good enough, it's sub moa from a bench. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted September 28, 2015 The factory load suggestions are appreciated. I don't reload yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted September 28, 2015 PSA has AE 223 50 grain varmints on sale again (5.99/bx). Great at 100 yards should hold out to 300. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted September 28, 2015 The factory load suggestions are appreciated. I don't reload yet. Then try some of the black hills loads and save the brass until you reload. The other option is the Hornady steel match 77gr ammo if you want to keep cost down and not pick up your cases. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace08066 2 Posted September 28, 2015 Am I the only one who buys the cheapest ammo possible and is happy with it? lol Tulammo polymer coated steel case 65gr fmj Buy it by the 500rd case for about $120 and I can get a head shot 499/500 at 100 yards. I did have issues hitting water bottles at 300 yards... But at the time I was only using a *cheap* 4x mil-dot that was sighted @ 50 and firing from an unsupported standing position, so I honestly don't know if it was the ammo not being good quality or just me being bad. Either way... Just thought I'd say I'm a fan of the cheapest lead available. Unless you're gonna load your own and shoot for money, I don't think brass is worth the arm, leg or first born. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted September 28, 2015 Sorry but a "headshot" at 100 yards is basically 6-7moa. That is .. not great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted September 29, 2015 Sorry but a "headshot" at 100 yards is basically 6-7moa. That is .. not great.This is true vlad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace08066 2 Posted September 29, 2015 Sorry but a "headshot" at 100 yards is basically 6-7moa. That is .. not great. I'd be willing to wager anyone who has ever faced an enemy at 100 yards would beg to differ... I probably shouldn't have even commented, though. I'm not a competition shooter, nor do I have an expensive sniper rifle. I shoot a carbine with a 3 moa red dot quite rapidly @ life-size silhouette targets. As many rounds down range, on target, as quickly as possible while standing or moving. Reloads included. When I take my rifle out, it's basically practice for combat I'll probably never see... But professionals aside, I'd be willing to put money up vs someone out shooting me in a quickfire S/U shootout That's why I like the dirt cheap ammo... When I plow through 1,000 rounds in a single outing, I'm not that concerned with a 2 moa differential or the occasional drifter. But the original poster was probably seeking advice for the exact opposite application... Just sayin'... Being able to hit a head at 100 yards religiously while moving is a better skill to master than hitting a stationary quarter at 300 in a comfy, relaxed position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted September 30, 2015 $100 on vlad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted September 30, 2015 $100 on vlad. aww shucks . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace08066 2 Posted September 30, 2015 I smell an opportunity Lets set this up... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted September 30, 2015 I smell an opportunity Lets set this up... It's ok Ace, I'm sure you are better shooter then me, and probably better looking too. However, If you can make 499 shots out of 500 at a 6" target at 100 yards while moving, I strongly recommend you get into the competitive shooting arena. I know for a fact that the top shooter who make a living doing this are not that confident of their shooting and they stop and post up for 100 yard shots off hand. You could be taking their lunch money, dude. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex V 99 Posted September 30, 2015 For hitting steel at 200y I use PPU 75gr. At 200y, there really isn't any ill effect from this ammo and on paper at 100y I have been able to get 1moa 10 shot groups out of my Noveske SPR barrel. I also got really goo results from SSA 77gr SMK ammo. I just ordered CBC 77gr "mk262" clone ammo. It seems to be getting goo reviews. We shall see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted September 30, 2015 I just ordered CBC 77gr "mk262" clone ammo. It seems to be getting goo reviews. We shall see. Try the IMI 77gr "razor Core" - probably is cheaper too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex V 99 Posted September 30, 2015 Try the IMI 77gr "razor Core" - probably is cheaper too Link? I can see the $375 500rd case on Wideners. Not sure I want to invest that much until I know if my rifle likes it. The CBC stuff is $29.99/50 so its actually cheaper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted September 30, 2015 Link? I can see the $375 500rd case on Wideners. Not sure I want to invest that much until I know if my rifle likes it. The CBC stuff is $29.99/50 so its actually cheaper. http://www.sgammo.com/product/223-556mm-ammo/20-round-box-556mm-77-grain-smk-otm-lr-mod-1-razorcore-imi-ammo-made-israel-m $14.95/20... Where have you found the CBC stuff for that cheap? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ace08066 2 Posted September 30, 2015 It's ok Ace, I'm sure you are better shooter then me, and probably better looking too. However, If you can make 499 shots out of 500 at a 6" target at 100 yards while moving, I strongly recommend you get into the competitive shooting arena. I know for a fact that the top shooter who make a living doing this are not that confident of their shooting and they stop and post up for 100 yard shots off hand. You could be taking their lunch money, dude. I dunno about better looking... And i dunno about 499/500 while moving. That number was for standing, unsupported. I could probly get at least half in there moving, though... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sosa9999 5 Posted September 30, 2015 I had really good luck with Ultramax 55gr. It was shooting 1/2 inch - 1 1/2 inch, once in a while 2 1/2 inch. But for the price it was good enough. Now that I reload, 10 shoots 3/4 inch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex V 99 Posted September 30, 2015 http://www.sgammo.com/product/223-556mm-ammo/20-round-box-556mm-77-grain-smk-otm-lr-mod-1-razorcore-imi-ammo-made-israel-m $14.95/20... Where have you found the CBC stuff for that cheap? CBC 77 stuff is at PSA. $29.99/50 http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ammunition/cbc-5-56mm-nato-77gr-otm-hpbt-ammunition-50rds-cbc556c.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Displaced Texan 11,731 Posted October 1, 2015 CBC 77 stuff is at PSA. $29.99/50 http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ammunition/cbc-5-56mm-nato-77gr-otm-hpbt-ammunition-50rds-cbc556c.html Love that stuff and that's a good price. Hopping on it. Thanks for the tip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex V 99 Posted October 1, 2015 You got it! I just got 200rds today. Going to compare it to the SSA stuff. Going to order 200rds of the IMI 77s to see how they stack up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted October 1, 2015 CBC 77 stuff is at PSA. $29.99/50 http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ammunition/cbc-5-56mm-nato-77gr-otm-hpbt-ammunition-50rds-cbc556c.html Ah nice - I do believe I'll pick up some of that too... Today was Payday Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites