tattooo 220 Posted November 2, 2015 Based on that I say its a no go Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alex V 99 Posted November 2, 2015 Impressed with the veriaty of opinion. Just like anything else in Nj that is gun related, no one knows lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,871 Posted November 2, 2015 I'm not a lawyer and I am not sure one could tell you what muzzle devices are / aren't legal in NJ. Calling the law ambiguous is kind. The description says this: reducing the overpressure and flash You go with what you are comfortable with. By the full text of the quote: The SureFire Warden Blast Diffuser directs the concussive blast of the muzzle forward of the weapon system and the shooter instead of venting to the side as seen with stand-alone muzzle break devices. This aids in reducing the overpressure and flash felt by others to the immediate left and right of the shooter’s firing position. While the definition of a Flash Suppressor is: A flash suppressor, also known as a flash guard, flash eliminator, flash hider, or flash cone, is a device attached to the muzzle of a rifle that reduces its visible signature while firing by cooling or dispersing the burning gases that exit the muzzle, a phenomenon typical of carbine-length weapons. Its primary intent is to reduce the chances that the shooter will be blinded in low-light shooting conditions. So... what is it? Lol. My gut says that it would be an add-on flash hider basically... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted November 2, 2015 Impressed with the veriaty of opinion. Just like anything else in Nj that is gun related, no one knows lol.Well said Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,634 Posted November 2, 2015 Comps and breaks are great for competitions and range days. They flat out suck for CQB. The blast generated to the sides, that is necessary to make them work, is distracting at the least and can cause injury to yourself or others when used in buildings, cars, or close to other shooters - as is required for team based CQB. The idea behind the SF Warden is that you can have a break attached to your muzzle that can be made passable for CQB by attaching a shroud that covers the baffles on the sides and directs any overpressure forward and away from you or your team mates. It is not a device everyone needs. This primarily fills the specific niche where you have a 14.5" barrel that has to have a permanently attached muzzle device to avoid running afoul of the NFA nonsense, on a rifle that you need to occasionally wear a brake/comp and sometimes not. That being said, you could make the argument from the very careful wording in the part description above that the device doesn't necessarily reduce flash, but re-directs it so those next to you don't feel it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Contrvlr 17 Posted November 3, 2015 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P31zO8KURj0 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted November 3, 2015 By the full text of the quote: While the definition of a Flash Suppressor is: So... what is it? Lol. My gut says that it would be an add-on flash hider basically... I agree but we'll never know definitively. I may be conservative but nothing is cooler than my freedom. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted November 3, 2015 Yep....freedom is cooler Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,256 Posted November 8, 2015 Would have to be permanently attached. Otherwise it would be a threaded barrel. How is it a threaded barrel without threads? The video I saw of it did not appear to use threads. The real issue is what does it do to muzzle flash. I'm going to guess it diffuses the gases, and will reduce it noticeably and be a no-no much like a noveske fire pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted November 8, 2015 Would have to be permanently attached. Otherwise it would be a threaded barrel. It doesn't thread on. It's a compression fit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted November 8, 2015 My opinion is that it's not illegal but if you get caught with it you are going to get arrested Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted November 9, 2015 flash difference between Compensator --> Compensator w/ warden --> compensator with socom suppressor Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,871 Posted November 9, 2015 Doesn't look like its hiding the flash at all.... lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted November 9, 2015 I would agree Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites