gunnarsport 13 Posted November 1, 2015 Hi, As I have 2 permits in hand, I plan to do some in store shopping this week and compare and feel and handle several 9mm striker fired pistols, namely the HK VP9, Canik TP9SA, Smith M&P and the FNH FNS-9. These are the 4 I think I have narrowed my choice down to. However, only two are available with a 15 round magazine and that is the M&P and the HK VP9. The Canik and the FNS-9 I would have to settle for the 10 round option. (By the way, I eliminated the PPQ and Glocks. The PPQ is just too damn toyish and cartoonish looking and the Glock"s grip DOES NOT work for me.) On several other of the on-line gun forums, all the Non New Jersey residents tell me why would I even consider a 9mm that is only available with 10 rounds? That I should buy a 9mm with the most NJ allows, the 15 round magazine. Why not get the largest round possible magazine that nj allows. they all say. So my question is are most guys here perfectly content with their 9mm's with 10 rounds magazines?? Am I selling myself short by considering a 9mm with only a 10 round magazine available? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,417 Posted November 1, 2015 The difference between 10-15 rounds would be at the bottom of my criteria. It is something to ponder, but not as important as how it feels, fit, finish, accuracy, etc. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnarsport 13 Posted November 1, 2015 Those are kind of my feelings too, just wondering what others think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted November 1, 2015 All other things being equal (i.e. fit, accuracy, etc.), I would always prefer more capacity than less. My SIG P226 came with 15rnd mags standard. When the NJ legislature was threatening A2006 a year or so ago, I had already purchased several other 15rnd original SIG factory mags for it. Those mags suddenly decided to take a "vacation" in FL, and were replaced temporarily by two SIG 10 round original mags. Thankfully, I. my P226 and all the mags are now permanent residents of FL, so no issue for me. But yeah, capacity is a good thing, especially when you need it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Matrix 105 Posted November 1, 2015 10 or 15, don't matter to me. As long as the weapon functions flawlessly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondd817 823 Posted November 1, 2015 Would you want your home defense gun loaded with 10 or 15rds? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnarsport 13 Posted November 1, 2015 Its not a home defense gun! Its for fun, recreational range use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondd817 823 Posted November 1, 2015 Then it's a non issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted November 1, 2015 Why wouldn't you get the max allowed 15 rounds ?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD2K 115 Posted November 1, 2015 Then it's a non issue. Exactly. If it's simply a "range toy" then get the pistol that suits you best regardless of capacity. Personally I would like to have best of both worlds - maximum capacity with great feel/fit/finish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnarsport 13 Posted November 1, 2015 I will let you all know which gun I pick at the end of the week. I will say that I had handled the M&P and it felt great in hand and 15 round magazine are available for it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted November 1, 2015 If it is a range toy then who the hell cares about mag capacity? You should learn how to quickly reload anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted November 1, 2015 Legal bullshit aside, you would be shocked what someone competent can do with 10rd. USPSA Production divsion is shot with semi-stock guns, in 9mm, with 10rd maximum. Just in case you think that holds anyone back ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lalo 13 Posted November 1, 2015 I have the M&P9 for a few years now. It started as a range toy and was completely happy with the 10rd mags. But one I started using it for matches, it became apparent that the larger 15rd mags would come in handy. If you're just using it as a range toy, 10rd mags are just fine. You'll go through Ammo a little slower and you'll get to practice your reloads more often. If you're looking for a HD handgun, 10rds are fine but if you have the option to get a larger capacity mag, then why not? What's your price range? If you're looking strictly at striker fired, have you considered a Sig P320? They come with 14rd mags. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnarsport 13 Posted November 1, 2015 howard, Why the hell do I need to "learn how to reload quickly" if it is solely an occasional fun range gun and not competing?? How is that relevant?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Howard 538 Posted November 1, 2015 howard, Why the hell do I need to "learn how to reload quickly" if it is solely an occasional fun range gun and not competing?? How is that relevant?? Because it is a good skill to master as you never know when you might need to use it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted November 1, 2015 howard, Why the hell do I need to "learn how to reload quickly" if it is solely an occasional fun range gun and not competing?? How is that relevant?? That's like saying why should you learn how to correct a car skid, drive though snow, or recognize hydroplaning when you only plan to drive a car on sunny summer days. Because it is a skill worth pursuing and one day you might need it. Why should you learn how to be a good golfer when you can just hit balls at random. Why learn how to hit a basketball instead of just bouncing a ball? Why learn how to reload quickly? Because one day your gun might jam after one round fired, and you really need to get more in there RIGHT NOW. Because maybe one day you'll hit the mag release when you don't mean to. On the other hand, if you just enjoy plinking at targets why worry about a 9mm? .22 is cheaper. So are pellet guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisJM981 924 Posted November 1, 2015 I don't like 10 rd mags as they have a tendency to be very tough to get that 10th round in. That goes for fully loading any magazine. I like the M&P, but the VP9 looks like it's a PPQ made by H&K. Edit: I have a PPQ and love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,131 Posted November 1, 2015 And let's be realistic and be Perfectly clear...you WILL have a max ten round capacity in nj Sooner than you think.....so it will be a moot point Indeed. like or not, content or not. You'll need them anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AMScott 3 Posted November 1, 2015 2 10 round magazines is almost as good as 1 20 round magazine........ Buy more magazines..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted November 1, 2015 Indeed. like or not, content or not. You'll need them anyway.Sad but probably true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnarsport 13 Posted November 1, 2015 That's true, I forgot about that. Doesn't the 10 round magazine limit go into effect January 1st? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted November 1, 2015 That's true, I forgot about that. Doesn't the 10 round magazine limit go into effect January 1st? Was any such change passed recently? Or, perhaps, by EO? I hadn't heard of it passing. And if it had, I'm certain Ant would have been sounding off about it on GFH radio! But yeah, as soon as CC is no longer gov., whomever replaces him (most likely Sweeney or Fullop) will implement that "job 1." Not that it matters to me anymore, but it would still be tragic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnarsport 13 Posted November 2, 2015 HBecwithFn7, I certainly wouldn't call it "tragic." There are MUCH more important issues in NJ than the magazine limit going from 15 to 10, in my opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carl_g 568 Posted November 2, 2015 HBecwithFn7, I certainly wouldn't call it "tragic." There are MUCH more important issues in NJ than the magazine limit going from 15 to 10, in my opinion. you are wrong..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted November 2, 2015 That's true, I forgot about that. Doesn't the 10 round magazine limit go into effect January 1st? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HBecwithFn7 296 Posted November 2, 2015 you are wrong..... Yes, he is... In a home invasion scenario, you want as much capacity as you can get without distraction. Those extra 5 rounds might just make the difference, someday. Moreover, the political impact of having something like that passed and implemented is a critical blow to the pro-2A struggle in NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tattooo 220 Posted November 2, 2015 That's not going to be the end of the magazine reductions so It is a pretty important Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunnarsport 13 Posted November 2, 2015 Well, its just my opinion. For all the important future issues facing NJ, a 5 round reduction in a pistol magazine is NOT on the top of my list! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites