Kimber45 3 Posted February 9, 2016 Hello all a quick question. I have a friend of a friend that was convicted of a drug possession/ dist charge a while back and spent time in prison. Is there a time frame where he can possess or handle firearms in NJ. Would he be able to go and shoot with someone with a valid FID? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted February 9, 2016 I'm guessing not but let's see if someone actually knows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fishnut 2,358 Posted February 9, 2016 Are you sure he is a felon? I know a few people who served prison time for possisson and distribution but are not felons. I even know one guy who got his FID after serving prison time for possession and destruction of evidance. However if a felon I'm pretty sure it's for life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pasu0115 200 Posted February 9, 2016 A convicted felon is barred from possessing firearms and ammunition under federal law. The only way to get around that would be if they obtained a presidential or gubernatorial pardon, or if they went through the process to have the conviction expunged. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted February 9, 2016 A convicted felon is barred from possessing firearms and ammunition under federal law. The only way to get around that would be if they obtained a presidential or gubernatorial pardon, or if they went through the process to have the conviction expunged.I remember reading somewhere about how different states have different lengths of time for the prohibition. I need to dig it up if I can find it. Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimber45 3 Posted February 9, 2016 He was sentenced to 10 but only served 3 1/2 years. In state not county... isnt that a convicted felon? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted February 9, 2016 No handling firearms for your friend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimber45 3 Posted February 9, 2016 Thats what I thought thanks all.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302w 83 Posted February 9, 2016 Your friend could go to most any range and shoot a friend's firearm. I'm entirely unsure of it's legality so YMMV. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted February 10, 2016 Your friend could go to most any range and shoot a friend's firearm. I'm entirely unsure of it's legality so YMMV. That would constitute felon in possession of a firearm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted February 10, 2016 Your friend could go to most any range and shoot a friend's firearm. I'm entirely unsure of it's legality so YMMV. That's a no go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted February 10, 2016 ^^^^^Served 3.5 out of 10, so he's out on Parole, and as a FELON out on Parole, if he's snagged with a gun in his hands, he's subject to revisiting the State lock-up for those other 6.5 years! One picture on Facebook is all it would take. If I'm wrong about this, GRIZ or someone else please chime-in! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimber45 3 Posted February 10, 2016 Thanks again all for your input. Iam sure hes done with his probation its been about 20 years. I will heed your advice and pass it on... thanks again.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 10, 2016 Everybody needs to stop talking about "Felons." Even many misdemeanors can get you banned from ever touching a firearm nationwide under federal law. Probably the majority of them. I remember reading somewhere about how different states have different lengths of time for the prohibition. I need to dig it up if I can find it. Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk If he was sentenced to 10 years he is banned for life federally, state law doesn't mean shit. One good thing about NJ is they seem to be more reasonable than many states with pardons and expungements. Dude needs a lawyer with a good track record on these things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted February 10, 2016 Can't post it because I'm on my phone but we're both correct. I found a good article on findlaw that covers some bases. Some states automatically restore rights after incarceration. Others have to be petitioned. Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted February 11, 2016 ^^^^^Served 3.5 out of 10, so he's out on Parole, and as a FELON out on Parole, if he's snagged with a gun in his hands, he's subject to revisiting the State lock-up for those other 6.5 years! One picture on Facebook is all it would take. If I'm wrong about this, GRIZ or someone else please chime-in! You are correct. The OP stated it was "a while back". If that's 9 years ago he'd go back for to do his 6.5 years. If it was 20 years ago he would be a felon on possession of a firearm. He wouldn't most likely be charged with that if he was still on parole but he could. There can be a lot of conditions with parole but not possessing firearms is pretty standard. Doing 3.5 years on a 10 year sentence for distribution charge means he wasn't dealing nickel bags of grass. Not saying he isn't reformed now. IIRC, as black powder guns are not considered firearms under federal law a convicted felon can possess one depending what the state says. Not in NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted February 11, 2016 You are correct. The OP stated it was "a while back". If that's 9 years ago he'd go back for to do his 6.5 years. If it was 20 years ago he would be a felon on possession of a firearm. He wouldn't most likely be charged with that if he was still on parole but he could. There can be a lot of conditions with parole but not possessing firearms is pretty standard. Doing 3.5 years on a 10 year sentence for distribution charge means he wasn't dealing nickel bags of grass. Not saying he isn't reformed now. IIRC, as black powder guns are not considered firearms under federal law a convicted felon can possess one depending what the state says. Not in NJ. Yes, I knew that and was going to mention it myself. I'm a member of a forum about muzzleloading, and the topic of using a cap and ball revolver for self defense comes up every-so-often, mostly in-part because of what i just highlighted. Even more mind-blowing is the fact that rapes, AAand B's, carjackings, even hold-ups have been stopped by hard-working, fully-reformed felons using cap and ball revolvers in FREE STATES. But not in New Jermany.......... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted February 11, 2016 why in the world are you asking for legal advice here or anyplace on the internet???? Tell your friend to contact a legal expert to cover his ass. I can here him now as the cops place the cuffs on him "but they said online I could own/handle/shoot firearms, it must be legal, let me go, pigs" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arthur Kill 0 Posted February 11, 2016 Thanks again all for your input. Iam sure hes done with his probation its been about 20 years. I will heed your advice and pass it on... thanks again.... You're passing on legal advice that you got from users on an internet forum. This is pure comedy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimber45 3 Posted February 11, 2016 I was looking for anyone with personal experence in this situation not legal advise..... thank you very much.. and if you really must know the person iam inquiring about is my wifes scumbag ex. Who thinks he can do what he wants and not get jambed up.. honestly I hope he does get someone to let him use a firearm as long as its not my stepson... and get tossed back in the can....again to all that gave personal input thanks. Others well, you know what you can do...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
son of sam 9 Posted February 15, 2016 I have a friend who was convicted of possession of something like 8lbs of pot when he was 18 y/o. Not sure of the prison term or if he even went, I know he moved to CA for a while. lol Anyway he is no 40ish, never had anything more than a traffic ticket since, business owner, a pillar of the community. Unfortunately once a felon, always a felon. He may never possess a firearm in the US again. I should also mention that to my knowledge a felony conviction cannot be expunged. I would never take him to a range with me even if he wanted to go, I would also never hand him a gun to "check out". It sucks for those that have similar convictions. However, no one made them possess the pot. They knew it was against the law when they did it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dodgeguy 0 Posted February 18, 2016 Heres an interesting chart by state by state... https://www.nacdl.org/ResourceCenter.aspx?id=25091 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pasu0115 200 Posted February 18, 2016 Heres an interesting chart by state by state...https://www.nacdl.org/ResourceCenter.aspx?id=25091The chart for the states really doesn't matter. The only thing that matters on that chart is Federal. Under federal law anyone convicted of a felony for which they can be given a sentence of more than one year is barred from possessing firearms and ammunition. I think even if you are sentenced less than a year on a felony, the prohibition still applies. I think a sentence of probation for a felony conviction applies as well. Do not possess firearms if you have a felony conviction only a pardon or expungement can restore your firearms rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted February 18, 2016 The chart for the states really doesn't matter. The only thing that matters on that chart is Federal. Under federal law anyone convicted of a felony for which they can be given a sentence of more than one year is barred from possessing firearms and ammunition. I think even if you are sentenced less than a year on a felony, the prohibition still applies. I think a sentence of probation for a felony conviction applies as well. Do not possess firearms if you have a felony conviction only a pardon or expungement can restore your firearms rights.Not true. Your state can reinstate your civil rights after felony conviction. Therefore you will no longer be a felon. That's where the states come in. Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1LtCAP 4,262 Posted February 18, 2016 Your friend could go to most any range and shoot a friend's firearm. I'm entirely unsure of it's legality so YMMV. my understanding from my best friend.....who got a felony back in 77 or so.....is that no. not only can he not own/possess a firearm, but he can't even handle mine if he came to the range with me. he can't vote either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted February 26, 2016 Lawyer up and expunge it, if he can! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirk2022 43 Posted February 26, 2016 I have A Stepson (unfortunately) That has A felony conviction in NJ, Served his time and is out. He cannot own or even handle A firearm period. Plus anyone knowingly allowing A convicted felon to do so, will be breaking the law. Slippery slope? No. The Law? Yes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites