302w 83 Posted February 11, 2016 I currently carry a 9mm Shield. I like it, it suits my needs and I don't need a new gun. Someone I know carries a Colt Pocket Hammerless 380 (you know who you are). I think it's cool and classy as hell to carry such an offbeat handgun. I'm looking for something noticeably smaller than my Shield, and out of the ordinary. No mini plastic guns. Something fun to shoot and good to carry. Preferably cheap and has to have an advantage to my S&W. I considered a Mustang Pocketlite. Somewhat common but too expensive. The Sig clone is off the list because I have a personal grudge against Sig. A Tokarev made it high on my list but it's too big and supposedly unsafe. Maks seem chunky but I'll try my dad's. No wheelies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted February 11, 2016 I was gonna say a S&W Bodyguard 380 but that's a mini plastic gun. Walther PPK? AMT Backup 380 is another option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted February 11, 2016 NAA mini ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJGF 375 Posted February 11, 2016 How about an M&P 340 CT. Amazingly light and small but I have heard punishing. The laser is a nice touch though. I picked one up at the GAOS and it is sick how small and light it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,877 Posted February 11, 2016 Boberg XR9-L (pricey) CZ 2075 RAMI Lionheart LH9NC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Newtonian 453 Posted February 11, 2016 I currently carry a 9mm Shield. I like it, it suits my needs and I don't need a new gun. Someone I know carries a Colt Pocket Hammerless 380 (you know who you are). I think it's cool and classy as hell to carry such an offbeat handgun. I'm looking for something noticeably smaller than my Shield, and out of the ordinary. No mini plastic guns. Something fun to shoot and good to carry. Preferably cheap and has to have an advantage to my S&W. I considered a Mustang Pocketlite. Somewhat common but too expensive. The Sig clone is off the list because I have a personal grudge against Sig. A Tokarev made it high on my list but it's too big and supposedly unsafe. Maks seem chunky but I'll try my dad's. No wheelies. Not an expert here but I own a Tokarev and two pistols in 9x18 -- an E. German Mak and a CZ82. The Tok is too big for concealed carry IMO, not that I ever have. The round is very fast and probably goes through the average 380-lb perp with no trouble, so liability issues. Never heard that they were unreliable. There must be some defensive rounds out there but probably too expensive to train with. Plus it is single-action only which to me is a deal-breaker. I've never had a malfunction of any kind, nothing, from either Makarov handgun. Never. And I'm not exactly Mr. Clean. Every time I shoot 'em I can't believe I've just gone through three or four more boxes and no problems. The CZ is a little rough on recoil for me but the E German is perfect. However only 8 rounds in the mag which will disturb serious caliber fags. They're heavy but NOT big and not clunky. They feel substantial, which I like. They're super accurate and are easy on the pocketbook both through acquisition and usage; the ammo is about 20 cents/round. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichP 115 Posted February 11, 2016 Seecamp - http://www.seecamp.com/products.htm Your welcome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted February 11, 2016 My east german mak has been my go to ccw (out of state), however I was always a fan of the Walther PPS. Now I see they have version 2.0 that is even cheaper. The new Block is also pretty cool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carl_g 568 Posted February 12, 2016 I have the Block 42..but it is plastic.. I know people here hate on Kimbers but the new micro 9's look slick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted February 12, 2016 Rorbaugh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted February 12, 2016 RorbaughGone. Remington bought them. Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted February 12, 2016 Gone. Remington bought them. Sent from an undisclosed location via Tapatalk. I knew that.....I couldn't afford a new one anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T Bill 649 Posted February 12, 2016 Boberg sold to Bond Arms. Some significant changes are supposed to be in the works Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
302w 83 Posted February 12, 2016 PPKs are cool but are pricey. I considered a Bersa which at a glance is substantially similar but didn't offer any advantages. AMTs look great but have iffy reliability. Boberg is very interesting, but far out of my range. Thanks for the input guys. Let's keep this going. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,661 Posted February 12, 2016 In all honesty, the more I think about it, I doubt anything will come close to beating your Shield in any category related to CCW other than "different". It is light weight, shootable, comfortable in the hand, accurate, reliable, affordable, has good sights, has respectable capacity, and is chambered in an effective caliber with known good terminal effects. I doubt you will find somethng else that solidly hits all those marks and is as different as you want it to be. A CCW gun is not the piece you want to get creative with. Save that for the BBQ guns and the range queens. How about a Kahr PM9? Mine has been great. Similar in size to the Shield/G43 and ticks all the boxes, you can get it in a satin finish and it's not too common. All that being said - For something really different, I always thought the COP .357 4 shot Derringer-type was cool and classy: Personally, I wouldn't carry it as a CCW piece (maybe a backup....) but you might like it. I also like the Colt Mustangs, but that's a lot of gun for an abysmally performing .380 ACP. I would like to own one, but I would not carry it. Another cool option would be an HK P7. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jpknj 6 Posted February 14, 2016 I love my CZ Rami BD. Comes with both 10 & 14 round mags. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,105 Posted February 14, 2016 Get a 5 shot 340 PD. It's an airweight .357 and I really like mine. I put boot grips on it and a clip. Carries with no holster. Mine is the version that cam with the trijicon front site. I use federal .38 critical defense ammo and carry a speed strip when I have it. http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_764939_-1_757912_757910_757787_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y I also have an XDS 45 ACP and bought a shield 9mm, like you want to replace, with green laser. It's super functional but to each his own. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted February 14, 2016 All that being said - For something really different, I always thought the COP .357 4 shot Derringer-type was cool and classy: Personally, I wouldn't carry it as a CCW piece (maybe a backup....) but you might like it. Ugh my hand hurts looking at that Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeke 5,504 Posted February 15, 2016 In all honesty, the more I think about it, I doubt anything will come close to beating your Shield in any category related to CCW other than "different". It is light weight, shootable, comfortable in the hand, accurate, reliable, affordable, has good sights, has respectable capacity, and is chambered in an effective caliber with known good terminal effects. I doubt you will find somethng else that solidly hits all those marks and is as different as you want it to be. A CCW gun is not the piece you want to get creative with. Save that for the BBQ guns and the range queens. How about a Kahr PM9? Mine has been great. Similar in size to the Shield/G43 and ticks all the boxes, you can get it in a satin finish and it's not too common. All that being said - For something really different, I always thought the COP .357 4 shot Derringer-type was cool and classy: Personally, I wouldn't carry it as a CCW piece (maybe a backup....) but you might like it. I also like the Colt Mustangs, but that's a lot of gun for an abysmally performing .380 ACP. I would like to own one, but I would not carry it. Another cool option would be an HK P7. Do they fire all at once, cause that is pretty muscle. Stupid, yet muscle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JayWilling 33 Posted February 16, 2016 I have the CZ Rami which is my favorite 9mm. Also have the XDS in .45. I happily carry either one every chance I get, although I think the Rami qualifies better as "different". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites