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Im flying out of JFK this time, so no way am I checking a gun there!! I'm going to see if I can buy a mossberg 500 from Wallyworld when Im down there this time, just to have something in the house. Then when I drive back down in Dec, I'll take the I-81 trek, and bring the pistols with me. I never even entertained checking a gun at an airport, but I think owning a home in FL should be enough to cover me for any FOPA or NJ transport reqs, if I decided too? Meaning I should be able to legally transport a handgun between my two homes (even in either direction).

Update: I am traveling down to FL in a few weeks, and flying down this time. So I figured it would be the perfect opportunity to ship my glock down. I called UPS, and the shipping rep on the phone said they will NOT ship any firearm individual to individual (myself to myself) over state boarders. I told them the ATF website says that I can, and asked for a manager. The manager said the samething, that UPS has a tariff policy that only allows out of state shipping of firearms.... either TO an FFL, or FROM an FFL. I called Fedex and got the same explanation. Thinking the reps I got might be misinformed, I called both back today and got the same story. I also stopped by my local UPS customer center (hub), and the guy working the desk made some calls and gave me the same story. So it seems like its completely legal federally to do, but no common carrier will accept a firearm for shipment to yourself in another state. What suprised me the most was that I never said "handgun" to them, I only said firearm. How the heck do hunters who travel to hunt take there rifles/shotguns with them??

Thank you! Now armed with this I will be making some calls to UPS and Fedex!

Im not looking to ship my collection (yet), just a glock to leave down there. I'd only have to ship it once. I know what your saying about driving down with them, and I fully support LE. But with all the crazy crap you see out there, the risk just seems to high to me. I have never been in a traffic stop while I had guns in the truck...but I have been pulled over for a brake light out recently. And right after I handed my license/reg/ins cards first thing I was asked was if I had any weapons in the car! Now I know following FOPA guidelines its legal to do, but you can have a really big issue if the officer decides to make it one. The cost of overnight UPS service, seems like a good deal to avoid alot of stress. Especially since I always drive thru the night. I start thinking what if I break down or have to get a hotel, or get pulled over in Baltimore at 3am....too many BAD what ifs for me. Feel the same way about checking the gun and flying down. As far as why I do not claim residency down in FL, you hit it right on the head. I don't spend the required 181days down there. Right now doing about 3-4mths, a year and slowly ramping that up. Believe me I would LOVE to reap the MANY benefits of being a FL resident, and in time I will! Looking forward to paying my NJ exit tax and heading down there for good,,LOL!! Got a bunch of years before that is realistic though.

I have read conflicting information on here from other people who live in multiple states. Wanted to see if anyone can provide me a link to information disputing my theory. Background: 1) I am a NJ resident with FID + matching DL. Handgun was purchased by me, in NJ, with proper NJ pistol permit, from a NJ FFL. 2) I own a house in FL, but I am not a FL resident, nor have FL DL. 3) I can possess said NJ permitted handgun legally at both my FL or NJ residence. I would like to take my NJ legal handgun to my house in FL permanently. I know I can 100% legally follow FOPA guidelines (locked case, ammo separate, ect) and drive it down to my FL house...BUT I have no desire to do this with having to go through Maryland, DC, ect. I have been told by a NJ FLL that I cannot do a regular FFL transfer to a FL FFL, because I am not a resident there. I would like to ship the receiver down to FL and pick it up myself from UPS/Fedex Hub if this was an option. Reading each respective companies firearm policy's it does not appear I can do this. Now I have searched and found people who said this is okay....but I dont think it is. I called UPS and the person on the line was clueless..... He said I would have to go in and talk to them. Have not tried contacting fedex yet. Does anyone have any experience with shipping a gun to yourself to LEGALLY avoid traveling with it? Or better yet, a link to the actual policy that says that an individual can ship a handgun to themselves and pick it up from a hub? I want to follow the letter of the law to a T, but its difficult to find what the law actually is.... Thanks in advance! UPS: Shipping Firearms or Ammunition Shipping Firearms or Ammunition Special Procedures for Shipping Firearms UPS accepts packages containing firearms (as defined by Title 18, Chapter 44, and Title 26, Chapter 53 of the United States Code) for transportation only (a) between licensed importers, licensed manufacturers, licensed dealers, and licensed collectors (as defined in Title 18, Chapter 44 of the United States Code), and government agencies and (b) where not otherwise prohibited by federal, state or local law (i) from an individual to a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector; and (ii) from a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to an individual. Fedex: Firearms Carrier will transport and deliver firearms as defined by the United States Gun Control Act of 1968, between areas served in the U.S., but only between: Licensed importers; licensed manufacturers; licensed dealers; licensed collectors; law enforcement agencies of the U.S.or any department or agency thereof; and law enforcement agencies of any state or any department, agency or political subdivisions thereof; or Where not prohibited by local, state and federal law, from individuals to licensed importers, licensed manufacturers or licensed dealers (and return of same). Carrier cannot ship or deliver firearms C.O.D. Upon presenting the goods for shipment, the person tendering the shipment to Carrier is required to notify Carrier that the shipment contains a firearm. The outside of the package(s) must not be marked, labeled or otherwise identify that the package(s) contains a firearm. The shipper and recipient must be of legal age as identified by applicable law. The shipper and recipient are required to comply with all applicable government regulations and laws, including those pertaining to labeling. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives can provide assistance. Carrier will transport small-arms ammunition when packed and labeled in compliance with local, state and federal law, and the Hazardous Materials section of this Service Guide. Ammunition is an explosive and must be shipped separately as hazardous materials. You agree not to ship loaded firearms or firearms with ammunition in the same package.

I spent Dec and Jan in FL, and that was all it took for me to decide its time to get the h___ out of NJ! Going back this summer to house shop.

Thanks for the heads up, got in earlier!

Just saw your thread. THANKS for the heads up! No need to post anything further in this thread, everything I was wondering was covered in yours.

Not NJ gun law but figured someone on here would know. Question is on FL ccw training requirement. Does anyone know if my NJ Shotgun hunting education course meets the FL requirement as per item #1 below? If so, do I just include a copy of my course completion card and a copy of my hunting license? Thx in advance. From FL Dept of Ag website: (h) Demonstrates competence with a firearm by any one of the following: 1. Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission or a similar agency of another state; 2. Completion of any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course; 3. Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law enforcement, junior college, college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school, utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association, Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission, or the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services; 4. Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement; 5. Presents evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or military service; 6. Is licensed or has been licensed to carry a firearm in this state or a county or municipality of this state, unless such license has been revoked for cause; or 7. Completion of any firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association certified firearms instructor;

x2, really like to know how these JPX devices are viewed by NJ. While on the subject...What charges would you be facing if found to be in possession of a OC device larger >3/4oz?

Sorry to hyjack, but hypothetical situation. What if said camper was parked on rural land that you have leased year round (with your name on the lease)? Not talking public campgrounds or anything like that.....Land I possess. Does it seem reasonable that this would be covered under possession exception #1? "To keep or carry any firearm about a person's place of business, residence, premises, or other land owned or possessed by him; a place of business shall be deemed a fixed location." Thanks

Thank you!

True. I do plan on checkin out CJRPC in the spring.

Indoor range that doesnt allow FMJ/Hollow points. I like case price discounts, hence the quantity. Thx for the link to cheaperthandirt.

Anyone have a good lead on bulk (1000+rd) 223 frangible ammo thats not insanely priced? Thanks in advance.