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  1. Glad you cleared that up...for yourself. Again, accidental and misguided police shootings happen, no one is denying that fact. Clearly, American society as a whole, accepts the risk that mistakes happen as a result of having an armed police force. So, by the constant criticism of the police that is presented by you and on this board ad nauseum, are we advocating a “survival of the fittest” free-for-all society and where there is no law enforcement at all? Or, are we suggesting that our police not be armed? Which is it? And if accidental police shootings are so bothersome to us that we have to mention them every chance we get, where is the rationale in having the potential for more accidental killing by adding untrained citizens to the mix? This makes no sense and does not forward your "cause" in the least. Your mixing up your amendments. "Shouting fire in a crowded theater" is an example often used in regards to Free Speech, the First Amendment, to show how some speech is not protected and how all speech is not free. And again, I'm not a liberal nor am I anti-gun -- I'll let you know if that changes. Your constant repeated name calling does nothing but perfectly display your ignorance and inability to comprehend a basic idea -- like the one that flying an American flag upsidedown is not only desceration but anti-American. And by doing so, you're giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Are you ISIS? When does your frustration reach critical mass? ****Michael McLendon was a CCW holder**** Officials: Ala. shooter depressed over failures Associated Press GENEVA, Ala. - The man blamed for the worst massacre in Alabama history was depressed and frustrated with his inability to become a Marine or a police officer, officials said Thursday. Michael McLendon, 28, killed five family members and five others before fatally shooting himself Tuesday. McLendon had told a confidant in the days before the shootings that he was depressed and unfulfilled, according to Barry Tucker of the Alabama Bureau of Investigation. "He talked about his depression, his lack of fulfillment in his jobs, in becoming a police officer and in becoming a Marine," Tucker said. McLendon had been a Marine briefly but was discharged for falsifying information. Officials said he was released from the police academy because he couldn't meet some of the physical requirements. Authorities also said McLendon admitted in a two-page, handwritten letter that he had killed his mother and planned to commit suicide. He mentioned a family dispute over a legal issue but didn't reveal plans to kill anyone else. Investigators said they found the letter in a mailbox. They would not disclose its intended recipient. After killing his mother at the house they shared in Kinson, McLendon started a rampage that ended with him taking his own life following a shootout with police in nearby Geneva at Reliable Products, the metals plant where he worked until 2003. In between, he gunned down three relatives and the wife and 18-month-old daughter of a local sheriff's deputy on a front porch in Samson. He turned his gun next door and killed his 74-year-old grandmother and sent panicked bystanders fleeing and ducking behind cars. McLendon then drove off, spraying bullets through the town, killing three more bystanders. Jerry Conner, chief of the Alabama Bureau of Investigation, said people who spoke to McLendon in the days before the shooting knew he was depressed but did not feel that would prompt violence, even in a man who loved weapons and spent his free time at the local firing range. "This gives a window into what happened. But this sort of violence and rage, it just boggles the mind," he said. County District Attorney Gary McAliley said the only complaint neighbors had about McLendon was that he was constantly behind his home firing a weapon and they were worried about their cows. "I don't think anybody could have anticipated this by looking at him and interacting with him," McAliley said. "But certainly he had a volcano inside of him."
  2. Contradictio in terminis; you "agree, that people SHOULD have plenty of CCW training" but you are "ABSOLUTELY AGAINST REQUIREMENTS" for that training. The translation is, "yeah, I'd sound dumb standing against the notion of proper training for people with loaded guns but I don't wanna have to train." Should I call you Mr. Flip-flop...or Mr. Self-Entitled? Again, your "rights" end where they start to infringe upon mine. Defend yourself all you want but you shouldn't be legally allowed to use a gun to do it in public unless you're properly trained. I've stated over-and-over again my "solution." I'll type a synopsis of it again since you haven't been following along -- a repeal and restructing of all existing gun laws -- adequate firearms training to the same state/federal standards required for LE officers, training includes use-of-force, safety, retention etc, etc., training also includes facets that determine the mental/emotional fitness of the trainee. To stay active, In-service training twice a year, qualifications (minimally) twice a year. User pays, no cost to the government. Crazy, right?
  3. This. The unwritten rule certainly has caught on. I find it strange also -- a self-imposed regulation.
  4. Yes, the training requirements for CCW in FL are incredibly inadequate. I have a friend who moved there from NJ who had never owned, or fired a gun. He was able to retain a FL CCW with unbelievable ease. Now, he keeps an unsheathed, S&W 3954 9mm pistol with no safety, fully loaded, rattling around in his glove box! And he firmly believes he can legally shoot someone that steps on his lawn. He has ZERO training but carries a gun legally. They even had a CCW holder down there a few years ago that killed an unarmed teenager who was walking home from the candy store. FL is firearms insanity incarnated.
  5. Wha? I never said anything about "eliminating" guns... someone is getting emotional but it ain't me!!
  6. Haha! Certainly, you don't mean to imply that society hasn't enacted and ton of legislation and implemented a ton more of rules and regulations concerning swimming pool safety, right? Look, I'm all about backing a position with practical/empirical data -- and I believe I've done so when necessary in this debate. But also, I don't think this issue should be enslaved to data that may not have an impact on on it's ultimate ramifications to public safety or society as a whole.
  7. Yeah, I guess when I see all of this arrogant stupidity, it's kinda hard not to jump in the fray. You?
  8. Of course it does -- you used the UCR for your numbers, right? How many locality breakdowns are included therein?
  9. Well, I'm an enthusiastic "gun" collector and I live in "NJ" -- not really a stretch now, is it? FYI, not all enthusiasts go batshit crazy over politics -- from my experience, most don't and are not even members of the NRA. Thanks for asking though.
  10. Defeat. Ever consider the drugs you use recreationally are causing you to have deluded responses to real life situations? Still want to uproot and move your entire family cause NJ won't let you carry a gun? That's rational. And okay, I won't respond to you anymore if you don't want me to -- I talk to too many emotionally disturbed people each day anyway. I could use a break.
  11. Your numbers are not accurate – especially considering the age, economic standing and location of many here that want to carry. But I appreciate you spending the time to assemble them. Ask yourself – will 40 people in your town really be the victim of a violent crime this year? That’s emotion, not logic. In the end, it doesn’t matter as I’ve already told you that I agree with your contention that the odds of being accidentally killed by an untrained CCW holder are very low – as are the chances of you needing a gun in a self-defense situation. But statistically low probabilities are not the standard by which a civil society prevents unnecessary deaths (ie drunk driving, child restraint, lead in paint, etc.) – the standard is, can we save lives, even one life. And it’s perfectly LOGICAL because we value human life. I suppose you can use that argue on either side of this debate – this maybe the cause of the stubbornness on all involved. The second amendment was purposely written to be ambiguous – that fact is stated by it’s authors in no uncertain terms within in The Federalist. The second amendment clearly states that the people should have guns -- but it cleverly leaves the details of the execution of that ideology, and leaves it up to the modern community and our system of checks-and-balances. Anyone that talks about an absolute translation of the second amendment is only displaying their own ignorance.
  12. Oooh yeah, I get it. 'Cause one of them is a nagger, right? And they don't belong. Kewl!
  13. You know what else has extremely odds low of occurring? An incident where you would need to use a gun for self-defense. So, while I agree with your low-probability assertions - they also present a perfect argument against your entire position. When human beings are unnecessarily killed, other human beings are going to feel emotion. They are also, as a civilized society, going try to prevent it from happening again because that emotion, effects their logic. Certainly, emotion plays a large role for the CCW wannabe when the request is almost always accompanied by the phrase, "to protect myself and my family" Some even add "my God given right" although I've never heard my priest, in his homily, reference a Bible passage about Jesus being pro-CCW. I'm not sure where this constant evoking of the word "emotion," as an end-all for this debate, is coming from? I suspect it comes from an NRA talking point somewhere along the line and it is trying to be crow-barred in to this discussion where it's bearing doesn't effect either side disproportionately. Emotion plays a role on both sides of this debate.
  14. I find it odd that you don't mention the legalities of use-of-force and retention -- the two most glaring deficiencies in amateur carry. Just wondering -- how does self-loathing effect other aspects of your life? Dear Mr. tattooo, You're mistakenly assuming that I could give 2-shits about about your woefully uninformed opinion. Try not to make that mistake in the future. Sincerely, Arthur Kill Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and interpretations. That's American freedom. @High Exposure You want to chime in here, or no? Here's your chance.
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