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#1 Tash329

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 01:40 AM

I'm sure this has been asked many times before. I have an old NJ Firearms I.D. to a N. Jersey address (about 1 1/2 years out dated now), I now live in Southern NJ. I don't plan on buying anymore firearms any longer ( I think I own at least 2 of everything----LOL) so I don't plan on updating my I.D. to reflect my new address. I live across the River from Delaware so ammo, powder, primers ( I reload ) shouldn't be an issue. All my guns were purchased honestly through FFL's and I have retained all paper work. OK heres comes the stupid question----Is there any reason why I should update my old I.D. to my current address? Not sure this means much to the question but I was Grandfathered into hunting with my old Hunting I.D.

#2 Maksim

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:01 AM

by law you had to update within 30 days If I recall....

or by law, the FID has to match a drivers license... which you have to update prompty after your move.

Just go and update your address. never know when you want to buy something... and if you sell something, same thing.

#3 mikeyboyeee

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 08:51 AM

he can not just update his address. He has to apply all over again like if new.

You have 30 days to do the address change with only paying the $18 or so.
After that, its from scratch.

I would do it just because i never know if I want to buy something else, but I don't have nearly the collection you do.

I say if you have time to play the game and go to police station, might as well.

If not, I would not worry about it.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

#4 njpilot

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 10:37 AM

he can not just update his address. He has to apply all over again like if new.

You have 30 days to do the address change with only paying the $18 or so.
After that, its from scratch.

I would do it just because i never know if I want to buy something else, but I don't have nearly the collection you do.

I say if you have time to play the game and go to police station, might as well.

If not, I would not worry about it.


I don't know about that. Maybe it depends on the town, but I got my FID in 1983, haven't lived at that address since 1999, and only changed my address last May.

I hadn't been into guns since 1995 and forgot all about it while my guns were packed away.

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#5 mikeyboyeee

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 10:53 AM

N.J.A.C. 13:54-1.11 Duplicate firearms purchaser identification card
(a) Persons shall apply for a duplicate firearms purchaser identification card to replace a lost,
stolen or mutilated card, or in the case of a change of residence by the holder, within 30 days of such
loss, theft, mutilation, or change of residence.

(b) The applicant shall complete an application for a duplicate firearms purchaser identification
card designated as form STS-3 and a consent for mental health records search designated as form
SP 66 and present same to the chief of police in the municipality where the applicant resides or to
the Superintendent in all other cases.
© It shall be the responsibility of the chief of police of the municipality wherein the applicant
currently resides or the Superintendent in all other cases, to conduct a criminal history records check
and to determine if the applicant is subject to any of the disabilities as provided by law and this
subchapter and to issue the duplicate card, should the applicant qualify. The applicant shall pay the
appropriate fee for a Criminal History Record Check as established by N.J.A.C. 13:59 in accordance
with N.J.S.A. 53:1-20.5 et seq. (P.L. 1985, c.69).
N.
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#6 axeman_g

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 11:09 AM

It becomes an issue if your FID does not match you DL.

I just changed the address on mine and it took less then 30 days to get it back. Plus you get a nice new card. The Twp did not charge me for the change of address. It was easy, no brainer. Down your way it should not be a problem.
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#7 mikeyboyeee

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 11:10 AM

It becomes an issue if your FID does not match you DL.

I just changed the address on mine and it took less then 30 days to get it back. Plus you get a nice new card. The Twp did not charge me for the change of address. It was easy, no brainer. Down your way it should not be a problem.


Took me 7-8 weeks and cost me $23. :(
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#8 Urban Grunt

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 11:23 AM

My FID does not match my address on my DL, my postal address is different to my physical address,different township names.
It's never been a problem.

#9 mcm308

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 11:39 AM

My FID does not match my address on my DL, my postal address is different to my physical address,different township names.
It's never been a problem.


When was the last time you purchased a firearm and had to use them ?

#10 rscalzo

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 11:53 AM

Depends on where the change is made. Same town is not an issue. different town is pretty much a new application except the new residence would most likely request the paperwork from your former residence to obtain the SBI number as issued by the state.

Most likely new prints will be obtained but the new system has sped that up to almost a 24 turnaround. References would probably be checked again.

The need would come into play due to the fact the NJ FID card does not have a photo attached. A firearms purchase may ask for a photo id. Ammo, doubt it. But if you want to satisfy the law as written, the address change is required as pointed out earlier.

My FID does not match my address on my DL, my postal address is different to my physical address,different township names.
It's never been a problem.


That is addressed in the NJ statutes.

#11 Urban Grunt

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 06:45 PM

My FID does not match my address on my DL, my postal address is different to my physical address,different township names.
It's never been a problem.


When was the last time you purchased a firearm and had to use them ?

Last week and no problems.

#12 Blackfox

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 10:36 PM

My FID does not match my address on my DL, my postal address is different to my physical address,different township names.
It's never been a problem.


When was the last time you purchased a firearm and had to use them ?

Last week and no problems.


For years my FID and DL did not match when I decided to buy my last revolver went to the police station and changed my address. Now I have a FID which I dont need. If I were to come back to Jersey (not happening) to the same town, the FID would be valid, changing my DL. FID doesnt have expiration date. I dont see anywhere that you have to have a DL to obtain the FID.
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#13 rscalzo

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:43 AM

. I dont see anywhere that you have to have a DL to obtain the FID.


You don't but normally a check is made of the driver history as part of the background check. But more importantly, the FID card does not have a picture and some will require a second photo ID. The new NJ DL is the usual source of that document.

Now getting back to an earlier comment. You have a FID card with a listed residence that is no longer accurate as the applicant has moved, possible to another town. When purchasing, is the now inaccurate information put on the STS-033? If so by signing the document you are submitting a fraudulent document. You are also putting the FFL at risk as now during an audit this can easily be found causing the dealer a huge headache. If you think it can't happen, well it does. More than once a secondary identification form is requested by the dealers I've used. Any smart one will cover his butt.

#14 Caine

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 12:22 PM

I can only speak for myself, but every FFL I've dealt with has always asked me for the FID and my DL. Even the momos at Dick's ask for both.
-Pete
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