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#1 CageFighter

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:11 PM

since i know nothing about legal shotguns in NJ, can we have a Mossberg 500 Road Blocker, 6-shot? it just has a pistol grip & muzzlebrake. looks bad a**! i saw one @ the Allentown show today.
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#2 fliks

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:24 PM

I believe so. the "evil" features AFAIK don't apply to pump action shotguns. but the question is, do you really want a pistol grip only shotgun? you can really only fire that from the hip. most people get hit in the face trying to shoot those at eye level. while they look bada**, they're not as functional.
is this what you mean?

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#3 leadunderpressure

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 09:56 PM

The only additional thing you have to worry about here is that what you're describing isn't a shotgun by federal definition (shotguns have a stock) so you have to be 21 to purchase it. You can still buy it in NJ on just a FID and a NICS check however. The only thing different is the age limit.

#4 bmanrkg3

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:12 PM

ive never heard that 21 to purchase line regarding pistol gripped shotguns. As for aiming it at eye level, its all in the form :-)

#5 FFDP82

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:41 PM

Do yourself a favor and get yourself a shotgun that you can actually use for something besides shits and giggles. You will be much happier with your purchase down the road. Look into a standard Mossberg 500 or Remington 870. The muzzle brake on that looks cool but doesn't really do anything for recoil, shotguns have far too low pressure at the muzzle for muzzle brakes to work effectively.

#6 halbautomatisch

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Posted 24 October 2010 - 10:45 PM

The BATF started "interpreting" the federal regulations that way at the beginning of last year.

Same goes for receivers (AR 15 AR 10 etc) unless a rifle stock is already attached - all have to be purchased in you home state.

As for pump shotguns all configurations are legal in NJ.

#7 LibertyOrDeath

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 06:01 AM

The BATF started "interpreting" the federal regulations that way at the beginning of last year.

Same goes for receivers (AR 15 AR 10 etc) unless a rifle stock is already attached - all have to be purchased in you home state.

As for pump shotguns all configurations are legal in NJ.

+1 and as far as the pistol grip, both The Remington series and Mossberg are easly converted to a sholder stock
if you so choose. I wouldnt actually make a PGSG my first choice due to the recoil issue if your not use to it but to each his own.
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#8 CageFighter

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 07:52 AM

I believe so. the "evil" features AFAIK don't apply to pump action shotguns. but the question is, do you really want a pistol grip only shotgun? you can really only fire that from the hip. most people get hit in the face trying to shoot those at eye level. while they look bada**, they're not as functional.
is this what you mean?


yep, thats it!
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#9 lunker

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 08:20 AM

If you buy it, spend a few more dollars and buy a shoulder stock for it so you can use it for more than just blasting ****. That way you can buy a long barrel for trap and a mid sized one fore hunting, if you ever decide to go that way.

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#10 CageFighter

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 11:30 AM

If you buy it, spend a few more dollars and buy a shoulder stock for it so you can use it for more than just blasting ****. That way you can buy a long barrel for trap and a mid sized one fore hunting, if you ever decide to go that way.


i would definately add a shoulder stock. i dont think i'd go trap shooting, but i would consider hunting ZOMBIES. i got no patience or time for the other hunting.
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#11 vjf915

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 11:33 AM

I have seen a 500 with that muzzle brake sitting at Cheyenne Mountain for ~6 months now.

If I had to clean a gun my life depended on every day I'd be pissed off, you can't always do that. You should be able to kick the action open, piss in it, and close it. DONE.

+1 to you.. you have the single most important accessory ANY AR owner could ever own (myself included) and that is a backup AK..


#12 halbautomatisch

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:15 PM

Buy a Mossberg 590 8 + 1 capacity of 2 3/4 Has a heat shield and you can get it with a regular stock or a Speedfeed stock

You can always put a pistol grip on it later

It's a real crowd pleaser

#13 tommy3rd

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:39 PM

since i know nothing about legal shotguns in NJ, can we have a Mossberg 500 Road Blocker, 6-shot? it just has a pistol grip & muzzlebrake. looks bad a**! i saw one @ the Allentown show today.

If you are interested in any gun and have the funds, just pull the trigger (no pun intended) and buy it. Don't let other folks convince you otherwise. You'll find out yourself whether the stuff you buy is a keeper or not. Some people may like it and some people won't, but who cares? If you enjoy shooting it that's all that matters. :)

#14 FFDP82

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:56 PM

i would definately add a shoulder stock. i dont think i'd go trap shooting, but i would consider hunting ZOMBIES. i got no patience or time for the other hunting.


Meh, shotguns are a very poor choice for zombie hunting. If you're looking to hunt zombies, get an intermediate caliber rifle.

#15 CageFighter

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Posted 25 October 2010 - 05:59 PM

Meh, shotguns are a very poor choice for zombie hunting. If you're looking to hunt zombies, get an intermediate caliber rifle.


actually, im shopping for a SCAR-17 for that.
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#16 vladtepes

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 08:22 PM

I believe so. the "evil" features AFAIK don't apply to pump action shotguns. but the question is, do you really want a pistol grip only shotgun? you can really only fire that from the hip. most people get hit in the face trying to shoot those at eye level. while they look bada**, they're not as functional.
is this what you mean?



I had a pistol grip ONLY on my 500 for some time.. shot tons of different loads through it.. never had a single issue with getting hurt or anything... in fact there is a video somewhere of me shooting it with no issue.. the thing about guns is you simply can not generalize.. skill, physical size, and strength also comes into play.. just because i am comfortable shooting a pistol grip 12 gauge does not mean that my girlfriend can do the same.. I switched out to a knoxx stock simply to make longer shots more comfortable.. the $60 knoxx stock is IMO the perfect setup for these guns.. compact collapsible stock.. but its there if you want it..

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#17 fliks

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Posted 26 October 2010 - 10:37 PM

I meant to also say that I don't know the person's body size and build, so I don't want to generalize. didn't want to make the post too long. you are absolutely correct, Vlad - it's a subjective thing. what feels right to me, may not feel right to you or may be absolutely perfect for the next guy or gal.
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#18 vladtepes

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 07:32 AM

I meant to also say that I don't know the person's body size and build, so I don't want to generalize. didn't want to make the post too long. you are absolutely correct, Vlad - it's a subjective thing. what feels right to me, may not feel right to you or may be absolutely perfect for the next guy or gal.



no worries! It's just funny because when I bought the gun.. they kind of gave me the same line.. oh you might not want it in pistol grip... blah blah.. and yeah I had handled shotguns before.. but due to all that hype I actually shot bird shot in the thing first.. it was so manageable I remember laughing.. I am 6 foot 3 a little over 2oo lbs.. but even after switching to pretty aggressive buckshot the gun was still perfectly manageable.. the stock just allows me to shoot the gun more like a rifle.. that's the only reason I added it..

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#19 NJ609

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 08:55 AM

I like having a pistol grip/stock combo. Best of both worlds.
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#20 david8613

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 10:33 AM

I meant to also say that I don't know the person's body size and build, so I don't want to generalize. didn't want to make the post too long. you are absolutely correct, Vlad - it's a subjective thing. what feels right to me, may not feel right to you or may be absolutely perfect for the next guy or gal.



+1 all the way true!
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#21 CageFighter

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Posted 27 October 2010 - 02:02 PM

im a small guy, 6ft, 225lbs. i still got some growing to do after my elbow heals.
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#22 DJNEB

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 01:09 AM

i can shoot my 12 gauge pg mossberg 500 at face level with no problem, and have never hurt my hand, arm, or face. just make sure you are aware and conscious of the kick each and every time you are about to pull the trigger, and keep it away from in front of your face, but more parallel to your face. just an fyi i am about 5,9" and weighing 125 lbs. everyone who says shotguns hurt or that they broke bones were obviously not firing it right. our palm will probably get red due to the recoil hitting your hand everytime you shoot it but it doesnt hurt.

#23 ktm525xcatv

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Posted 23 March 2011 - 04:01 AM

http://www.remington...s-tactical.aspx
This but i put a pistol grip on it.
Can be shot 1 handed and its not bad.

#24 vladtepes

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Posted 26 March 2011 - 06:59 PM

i can shoot my 12 gauge pg mossberg 500 at face level with no problem, and have never hurt my hand, arm, or face. just make sure you are aware and conscious of the kick each and every time you are about to pull the trigger, and keep it away from in front of your face, but more parallel to your face. just an fyi i am about 5,9" and weighing 125 lbs. everyone who says shotguns hurt or that they broke bones were obviously not firing it right. our palm will probably get red due to the recoil hitting your hand everytime you shoot it but it doesnt hurt.



same exact experience I had..

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#25 Ray Ray

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Posted 13 April 2011 - 06:53 PM

As far as shooting a pistol grip only pump, on the hip or chest is ideal. Anywhere near the face and your asking for trouble. Just search "shotgun to face" on youtube and see what could happen.
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#26 DJNEB

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 06:00 PM

The only additional thing you have to worry about here is that what you're describing isn't a shotgun by federal definition (shotguns have a stock) so you have to be 21 to purchase it.



this statement can be misleading. just to clarify, you need to be 21 to PURCHASE a pistol grip only pump, but you can be 18 to OWN a pistol grip only pump. why? who knows. but thats NJ for you

#27 halbautomatisch

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Posted 25 April 2011 - 10:31 PM

this statement can be misleading. just to clarify, you need to be 21 to PURCHASE a pistol grip only pump, but you can be 18 to OWN a pistol grip only pump. why? who knows. but thats NJ for you

This reg has nothing to do with NJ, it's a federal reg that began about 2 years ago.




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