gimmemym1 34 Posted December 28, 2010 As of 1-3-11 the original owner(Skip Myers) will be taking back over control of the range and all current memberships will be honored. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted December 28, 2010 What about the lawsuit? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimmemym1 34 Posted December 28, 2010 Not sure yet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosser 61 Posted December 28, 2010 The suit was filed against Harboriste LLC... not USANA MTC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted December 28, 2010 I don't know the specifics, but if this was a NIMBY lawsuit filed by uptight yuppies, I would think they will have USANA in their sights before long. I hope i'm wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosser 61 Posted December 28, 2010 I don't know the specifics, but if this was a NIMBY lawsuit filed by uptight yuppies, I would think they will have USANA in their sights before long. I hope i'm wrong. The issue was Harborsite being a For Profit corporation and USANA MTC being a non-profit or so I am being told. USANA MTC had the original zoning variance drafted some 30 years ago and hopefully will be shielded because of that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Caine 147 Posted December 29, 2010 So what are the chances of the practical matches coming back? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosser 61 Posted December 29, 2010 So what are the chances of the practical matches coming back? I need to get down there an talk to the new/old owner. I'll let everyone know as it progresses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hopper 36 Posted December 29, 2010 Man i hope so , was really inexpensive to go there , hope everything turns out ok ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joelk 61 Posted December 29, 2010 I am curious to see where this goes as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
axeman_g 128 Posted December 29, 2010 I think there is a good bunch of SJ members (SJZED TEAM!) watching how this plays out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flank 12 Posted December 29, 2010 wait, gimmemym1 where did you find this info in your OP? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosser 61 Posted December 30, 2010 wait, gimmemym1 where did you find this info in your OP? I received the same info via email. Do you know that to be inaccurate, if so how? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flank 12 Posted December 30, 2010 I received the same info via email. Do you know that to be inaccurate, if so how? I was just wondering because on their website it mentioned nothing about re-opening. I'm not doubting you guys at all, and I really really do hope that they re-open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosser 61 Posted December 31, 2010 Well the saga continues... got this today: UNITED SPORTSMANS ASSOCIATION OF NORTH AMERICA 224 Sandbridge Road Pittsgrove Township, NJ 08318 December 30, 2010 Re: Grand Re-Opening of the Training Facility located at Sandbridge Road, Pittsgrove Township, New Jersey Under New Management and Ownership Dear Associates: We write in follow-up to the December 24, 2010 announcement you received from HarborSite USANA, LLC (“HarborSite”), in which HarborSite announced its closure of the marksmanship training facility it operated at Sandbridge Road, Elmer, New Jersey (the “Training Facility”). United Sportsmans Association of North America (“USANA”) will soon begin operation of the Training Facility under new management and ownership, and hopes that you will continue training at the reopened Training Facility. As you may know, USANA, which has no present or past affiliation with HarborSite, previously operated the Training Facility from approximately 1973 through early 2008. In April 2008, HarborSite purchased from USANA the land on which the Training Facility is located. Now that HarborSite has closed, USANA has reacquired ownership of the Training Facility and will open the Training Facility anew, relying on its more than thirty years of operational experience. The opening date and details of scheduling and operations are being formulated and will be provided once finalized. USANA plans to have competitive rates, allowing those that join its Training Facility the opportunity to train with confidence in a safe and cost-effective manner. We look forward to seeing you at the Training Facility. In the interim, we encourage you to contact us with any questions at the above address or by telephone at (856) 358-4891. Very truly yours, USANA Board of Directors I called the number above today trying to get more details and got an generic answering machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tosser 61 Posted December 31, 2010 Also got confirmation that the range is NOT opening on 1/3/11. Also asked if current memberships would be honored... response: "Please refer to the last paragraph of the letter. The plans are not set as of this date." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flank 12 Posted December 31, 2010 that is great that the re-opening is confirmed I do hope that they will honor everyones membership. thanks for the update Tosser Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodbutcher 0 Posted December 31, 2010 I talked to a few friends of mine from Elmer that are in the know with all of this and here's what they said. Harborsite got into a jam when the operated as a for-profit when USANA was always a non-profit plus there's some sort of regs that says they had to be a private club. Members only and not open to the public. They were supposed to get some sort of OK from the planning board but didn't and decided to fold up and leave town. Skip is supposed to take over and try to get more LEO's on board. That's where the big bucks are. As far as the yuppies are concerned they think most of the neighbors have been there quite a while, better part of 15-20 years or so. It's a bit of a mess right now. No one knows how it's all gonna shake out. Happy New Year to all! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joel 0 Posted January 23, 2011 Gun forum 1.rtf I talked to a few friends of mine from Elmer that are in the know with all of this and here's what they said. Harborsite got into a jam when the operated as a for-profit when USANA was always a non-profit plus there's some sort of regs that says they had to be a private club. Members only and not open to the public. They were supposed to get some sort of OK from the planning board but didn't and decided to fold up and leave town. Skip is supposed to take over and try to get more LEO's on board. That's where the big bucks are. As far as the yuppies are concerned they think most of the neighbors have been there quite a while, better part of 15-20 years or so. It's a bit of a mess right now. No one knows how it's all gonna shake out. Happy New Year to all! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed32 0 Posted January 25, 2011 Any news about the date when they are re opening? Edward Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joelk 61 Posted January 25, 2011 They are open again, but it is still unclear if they are honoring current memberships. From people who have been back, I have heard yes, but I have also heard they will only honor your current membership if you pay extra to renew with the new owners/Skip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimmemym1 34 Posted January 25, 2011 They have been open for a few weeks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodbutcher 0 Posted January 25, 2011 They have been open for a few weeks How about the LEO's going there? Will we have to compete for range time the way the other idiots ran the place? That was really crappy the way they disrespected the real sportsmen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed32 0 Posted January 25, 2011 Hi guys, I've been to USANA only once, last october when it was Habour Site. Any idea about the rates, hours of operation for non members? any phone number or website I can call or check. Thanks, Edward Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Krdshrk 3,878 Posted January 25, 2011 It used to be $16/day for nonmembers, I believe. I don't know if this has changed after the ownership change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodbutcher 0 Posted January 25, 2011 It used to be $16/day for nonmembers, I believe. I don't know if this has changed after the ownership change. From what I'm hearing from my Elmer friends this is where Harborsite got themselves in a jam. Supposedly, USANA is sanctioned as a private deal. Members only and there guests. And they are being told that this is in the zoning laws, too. If it's going to be open to the public there may be a problem plus the regular members don't want total strangers shooting alongside them. Can't blame them as this is the world we have to live in. Not all gun owners are as responsible or safety-minded as we are. Could get messy for Skip but I hope he's smart enough to get through it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodbutcher 0 Posted January 25, 2011 Gun forum 1.rtf Joel, I understand your concerns. It's a big world out there but it can get real small real quick when there's quality of life issues. Guess we all have to respect each other's rights and try to get along the best we can. The part about the auto weps is a bit distrubing to me as a responsible gun owner. Guess that the LEO's shooting. I'm hearing that this got to be a night time habit, too, with Harborsite. Can't imagine anyone shooting in the dark, litterally. Everyone's got the right pursue their own thing but when it gets to be a problem there has to be some sort of mutual understanding as to what is best for all. I keep hearing how the Harborsite people were pretty rude and thought they could do whatever they wanted. How come the local govt. let them operate like this? Seems like they created a whole bunch of legal problems for themselves and got in a little bit too deep. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernYankee 94 Posted January 25, 2011 Anyone know what the Membership costs? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gimmemym1 34 Posted January 25, 2011 Since its been so cold lately i have been there since they reopened. Looks like it's gonna warm up a little this weekend so I'll try to get over there and find out whats going on for everyone. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernYankee 94 Posted January 26, 2011 Thanks gimmiemym1, I tried calling over there today but got a generic VM like someone else said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
